Someone downvoted you for that opinion. I don't even know where the stereotype comes from. Every star wars fan I've seen just wants to talk about Star wars. They're not toxic or anything in my experience, they're just really into star wars.
There’s a reason that the term “Fandom Menace” and the saltierthancrait subreddit are things.
As a fan since the 80’s, and a woman, I’ve seen my fair share of toxicity, but nothing will compare to the level it’s gotten since the release of the sequels. I also hated the sequels, but goddamn the level of hate towards the actors themselves was just awful. There were many valid technical reasons to criticize those movies - diversity wasn’t one of them.
It’s definitely made us all look like idiots regardless if you were a part of the drama or not.
Sure, it kind of goes with the characterisation. Most ex-Star Wars fans are a sour lot though. Why can't they just accept that one era is over and the franchise is in a different place. Sure I'm sad that the style of Star Wars I grew up with is not only over, but actively being dismantled. But that's been going on for close to 30 years.
It's a simple fix for grown-ups: There hasn't been any Star Wars movies made since the 80's. And if you subjectively disagree, you're objectively wrong as per any fandom law.
People have hope and heart for Star Wars ... hope that got rekindled by a spark here and there like Andor and The Mandalorian's early seasons.
So the fans get pulled back in.
But soon after Disney brings pain again, and it is always on purpose, usually from very bad writing that should not have seen the green light, and lousy planning.
It's the casual fans who are bad imo. The ones who hate everything except the OT. And they just constantly talk about how Disney has ruined Star Wars because the only thing they watched was the numbered movies.
Have you seen the Acolyte? I’m convinced that the people angry about it aren’t really the big Star Wars fans that they claim to be, because there’s absolutely nothing in the Acolyte so far that hasn’t been done (or taken further) in the EU.
The Acolyte is a pretty mid show, it has some promise but has been a 6/10 show so far. Better than Book of Boba Fett for sure.
The majority of the criticisms I have seen are just typical fragile little white boys getting angry that they have to share their toys. The other criticisms that I have seen are pretty deliberately obtuse (budget too high) portray extreme lack of media literacy (how fire do that) or are just ignorant of the wider star wars lore (why they make jedi bad? why they call force thread?)
There are genuine criticisms that can be made about The Acolyte, but all of the usual suspects crying about how it’s “cringe” that a witch coven is in Star Wars and uses magic powers without a buddhist monk aesthetic, before switching topics to ramble about some completely unrelated right-wing talking point.
Ironic you say that because it's proven that the actors and staff of The Acolyte (and some in the Kenobi series as well) never saw a bit of star wars and have no basic knowledge of the property.
So it is an issue that fans complain how badly written the Acolyte is for the budget, even if they only heard about it from others or seeing clips, but it is no issue the cast and staff don't know a single thing about Star Wars lore but do force their own mind-canon of star wars on the fans ... ?
The Acolyte is the best series since Andor, but that isn't saying much. I think 6/10 is far to generous and given the pattern these shows follow, it's only going to get worse.
Naw, Rogue One was passable, never mind the few dumb fan service quips. Andor is straight up good. Mando was acceptable.
The rest? Yeaaahh... Disney has added little quality to the universe. At least George expanded the universe in ways that felt natural to the universe, even if he did it like a huge dork.
Disney keeps pulling a Hollywood and making things about grand spectacle with the thinnest of stories and actual plot holes everywhere. It's ... genuinely sad to see a multi BILLION dollar company squander and shit on such an expensive IP. You'd think they'd at least understand they paid a shitload for it and shouldn't devalue it with garbage productions.
They've done what almost all of the major studios have done with classic works, threw all their money at the SFX and not cared if the writing was good. It looks outstanding, same with Trek. Unfortunately there's just not much substance there for thinking adults.
Yeah it's pretty bad. People harassing actors and other people involved is disgusting. I'm also not the biggest fan of some of the new content, but sometimes it seems like a significant portion the fanbase just wants to hate on everything.
I am going to leave this example here, it shows a then and now, and ask you, who is being toxic, where does the toxicity start, every time, far before a project is launched?
Because there was no negative fan backlash before these interviews aired.
(No I am not affiliated with the channel, it just presents a striking example)
Also, tell me why hire such incompetent people shown here and such writers while there is an astronomical budget? Why shouldn't people get angry about it?
And also ask plain why, why insult your fanbase and your product like that and play innocent when the fans pick up their pitchforks.
This is a billion dollar company that IS ABLE to produce quality content, but it chooses to pump out this junk every time, why?
I think most fandoms are pretty bad. Here are a few I've interacted with in the past and their "outbursts".
WWE fans being tribalistic as fuck when it comes to any other type of pro wrestling existing. Honestly, go look at social media for AEW and it's mostly idiots slating everything they ever put out - while simultaneously being the best advert for the product.
Wrestling fans in general. Some woman managed to get leaked pictures of a pro wrestler with his baby in a private setting, and she got angry when people told her on Twitter to stop sharing them, because "they were her pictures". Alongside this, you'd be shocked at how many people camp out at hotels or airports to bother pro wrestlers that just want to go about their day, often to sign shit that's 100% going on eBay.
I've told this story before, but I was briefly a mod on /r/soccer, and some fans were unhinged. One mod was stalked in real life by a 16 year old fan of a rival team, to the point where the police got involved and Reddit admins had to reach out.
One Punch Man fans being toxic regarding the animators for seasons two and three, while also drawing risque pictures of a main character that looks like a child in provocative poses.
Taylor Swift fans. Need I say more?
Hajime No Ippo fans believing that watching a boxing anime makes you an expert in combat sports. This came up hilariously when some guy on Reddit challenged me to a fight in a boxing ring to prove him right on the intricacies of the Japanese national boxing rankings...something that I genuinely wish would have happened.
Even small fandoms can be pretty toxic places, like most places in public. I don't know what it is about bringing like-minded people together, but it usually ends up in small pockets of them attacking others that share something in common with them...
Mercury alone is safe enough to handle a bit where you would be mostly worried about breathing too much of its vapor. Organic compounds of mercury on the other hand can kill you within days of a drop touching your skin.
lol holy shit, just yesterday I made a comment on some SW thread about how some fans have been proven to be toxic (citing the bigotry a few of the actors were subjected to) and I got fucking blasted with angry responses. Yeah they’re toxic- and tribal about it.