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  • You can't really compare real life people's proportions to a cartoon of an anthropomorphic animal. To me its clear there was no intention for this image to be sexual at all. And believe me, if a furry wanted to draw something suggestive, there would be no discussion as to its horny status. They aren't known for subtlety.

  • Confederate railway gun captured by Union forces, US Civil War, 1864
  • Wood is definitely better than nothing, but I don't really see a situation in which this thing would need protection against small arms anyway. Unless something has already gone horribly wrong, those small arms are a significant distance from your artillery. At that range, they are already effectively worthless because their lack of rifling makes them horribly inaccurate.

    If I had to guess, you would mainly be worried about union sharpshooters (maybe) and artillery. At that point the only real advantage of the wood is the obstruction of sight.

  • Why in 2024 do people still believe in religion? (serious)
  • I don't have a strongly held belief regarding the existence of any gods.

    The strongly held belief I'm referring to isn't a belief in a god or lack thereof, its a belief that religion is a net negative for society.

    I'm surprised you're not aware of this.

    To say I'm not aware of this is again to argue in bad faith. I have mentioned myself that religious indoctrination of course still exists, and is a problem.

    As for the assessment of benefits, there's a great deal of research into what people do with their lives and why.

    Yes there is research into how religion affects society, but it isn't very useful for this purpose for multiple reasons. There is no instance of a society without religion, so the difference between a religious and non-religious society can't be studied. There can be no consensus on what is beneficial and what isn't, as morality itself isn't objective.

    There is not and there never will be definitive evidence as to whether or not religion is beneficial for society.

    There is nothing to suggest we need religion for any of the benefits that religious people say they obtain from it,

    There is also nothing to suggest the opposite, because this can't really be determined. You would have to so create a set of all the benefits religious people claim to get, which in and of itself would be a monumental task. Then, you would have to demonstrate that nonreligious people can achieve all of the exact same benefits.

    This is why I've come to the conclusion that this argument is pointless, and neither of us know anything beyond our personal experience.

  • Why in 2024 do people still believe in religion? (serious)
  • I stand by what I said and painting it as absolutes is arguing in bad faith.

    This I agree with. Looking back, you were more careful than I thought you were to specify you were not talking in absolutes.

    I will however double down that you are still making a fundamental assumption that your option is the correct one, and you make it more clear by arguing that all benefits of religion are possible without religion. If all benefits of religion can be attained without risking the detriment, then religion is the worse option by far.

    However, thinking of this made me realize I'm just making the opposite assumption. Just like you, I've constructed a strongly held belief about religion based on my life experiences, which are entirely anecdotal and effectively meaningless.

    How would you even get evidence that most people are manipulated into becoming religious? How would you get evidence that most people don't? How would you get evidence that religion does or doesn't benefit people? How would you even define benefit in the first place?

    This argument is meaningless.

  • Why in 2024 do people still believe in religion? (serious)
  • That makes more sense to me. Although, I would contend that people in real life can also just put on a role to varying degrees of success depending on the exact circumstances. Presumably when you said "personally" though, you meant people you already knew well enough to verify their claims to some extent.

  • Why in 2024 do people still believe in religion? (serious)
  • Maybe you're right, that sounds possible. I would think if that's their intention they wouldn't have written that "everyone" is everything, and would instead say "someone" or something to that effect. At that point I'm probably just overanalyzing though.

  • Why in 2024 do people still believe in religion? (serious)
  • Your understanding of their reasoning comes from a fundamental assumption that your choice is the correct choice for every person. They willingly made the wrong decision, therefore they must have been manipulated into doing so.

    Many people do just become religious without outside influence. On a large scale, every society will create its own version of religion without fail. Clearly, they have something to gain psychologically by doing so.

    While religious indoctrination obviously exists and obviously is a problem, it doesn't discount the actual benefits that religion seems to have, and by extension the reasoning with which some people become religious.

    We all do.

    When I said "start", it was in reference to the process of changing your religious identity, not your life as a whole.

  • Man who calls women "females" hopes to one day be allowed within 500 meters of one
  • Even if someone called me a "male" constantly it would kind of freak me out. They are theoretically interchangeable, but male or female just comes off less "human" I guess. If they choose to only ever say male or female then it makes you wonder if they literally perceive you as inhuman.

  • Please stop equating Christianity with religion as a whole

    A lot of the posts here are just pointing out how illogical religion is, which I don't mind. I'm religious myself, but I'm well aware how ridiculous it is. What does bother me is the arguments against Christianity that are used as arguments against all religions. Most of you were likely raised christian, so I understand why you focus on it, but most religions don't have all of the problems Christianity does. I think a lot of the posts here would fit better in an ex-christian community.

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