Multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire in Las Vegas and Kansas City

In posts on X following the incident, Tesla CEO Elon Musk called the incidents “terrorism” and said the company “just makes electric cars and has done nothing to deserve these evil attacks.”
OK buddy.
- The cars suck, but he's right that the company hasn't done anything to deserve this. He's the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they'll feel about any business he owns.
  Terrorism, though? Hardly. It's protest. He's the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.
  
  The cars are poorly designed to the point of being dangerous. They deserve it a little.
  
  Terrorism, though? Hardly.
  Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature
  Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn't necessarily make it wrong.
  That's what was so terrifying about the Patriot Act for so long.
  
  This is terrorism. Storming the capitol is clearly not.
- The board needs to remove Elon today.
  
  yep. I don't get why they haven't. He's tanking their shit badly.
  
  the board are his handpicked toadies that have him a bonus despite tesla losing money
  
  You can remove him from the board but he'll still have all of his shares. And I'd bet he's not really doing much as Tesla these days anyway.
  
  Even if they do, protests and boycotts need to continue past it. A lot of his wealth is in Tesla stock, and he's going to benefit from the shadows if the public moves on and TSLA recovers.
- It’s not terrorism. They were just peacefully touring the dealerships. Just like January 6. Peacefully touring.
- "Evil attacks", like we're killing puppies, or something.
  It's vandalism against machines, and the only victim here is the insurance companies.
  
  “Evil attacks”, like we’re killing puppies, or something.
  Leave the puppy killing to the expert, Kristi Noem.
  
  Also some people who bought teslas before all this happened having their rates go up. And the people who had their Tesla vandalized or totaled who didn't get a good enough payout from insurance to replace it (if you've ever dealt with insurance you know you're not getting the actual value back). I'm not saying I'm losing sleep over it, but still.
  I had a friend buy a Tesla after Elon was talking about buying twitter but before one could objectively say he went full fash, and I told him he'd be embarrassed about it eventually. He went through with it because it had X features or whatnot. Do I feel bad for him? A little, but it's not like the writing wasn't on the wall. Obviously once Elon was with Trump 24/7 he said he regretted it, but it's a bit late for that.
  There's no ethical consumption under capitalism, so it sucks to see consumers be targeted, but I understand. I have a phone and I'm sure somewhere child slavery was involved. Does that make me a bad person? Yes, the answer is objectively yes. We're all making shitty choices every day and if one day someone decides to draw the line and I'm on the wrong side of it, I guess I'll just have to cope. That's kinda how I feel about it. So Tesla owners are being harmed too, but I don't know that I'd call them victims of anything except their own decisions. I'm not sure they deserve it all equally, but we all kinda suck so whatever.

Problem with setting Teslas on fire is we can't know if it's an act of protest or if they just did that on their own.
- They've become sentient, and are committing suicide.
  
  This made me laugh out loud at my desk. Thank you
- The incident in Kansas City genuinely does sound like one just caught itself on fire.
  In Kansas City, Police Captain Jacob Becchina said in a statement that an officer first observed smoke coming from a Cybertruck parked in a Tesla parking lot. “The officer used his fire extinguisher, however, KCFD was still needed as he could not put the fire out,” Becchina said. “The fire spread to a second Cybertruck parked next to the original burning one. The circumstances are under investigation, but preliminarily, the fire is being investigated for the potential of being an Arson.”
  
  HERE COMES THE SUM
- Could be insurance fraud too.
  
  Probably a lot of the time it is. Nows a great time to do it if you're gonna.
  Saw a post earlier where a guy was 42,000$ underwater on his and wanted to offload it at that big of a loss before his insurance dropped it entirely.
- LoL 😂
- Exactly 🤣🔥

We know that Teslas sometimes just catch fire on their own.
We also know that sometimes Tesla drivers will set their cars on fire themselves on purpose. Because of that...
We also know that Elon has a backdoor into all Teslas.
Now ask yourself which is more likely, the woke liberal crybabies actually causing violence or a drug addled and politically embattled CEO of a company that lost 50% of its value in the past 3 months creating a false flag to villainize the left and get insurance to cover damage to the vehicles he can't sell?
/s (kind of)
- Didnt the Nazi party burn down the Reichstag and blame it on the other party?
  
  They blamed it on the communist party, yes. There were 8 parties represented in the Reichstag at the time though.
- If unsold teslas catch fire, i'm convinced it's some insurance scam. A car sold and a car gone that they can't fix anyway
  
  They've already shown what they are capable of, in terms of scam behavior, up in Canada.
- Given Elons history, it's definitely possible.
- Wdym by "backdoor into all Teslas"
  This could mean "taking an industry standard sorfware update feature and making it abusively aggressive to or push malware to end users"
  it could mean "grants tesla 25-75% of the car's controls from the internet"
  it could mean the former AND "grants access to diagnostics, settings and controls the consumer cannot access themselves"
  it could also mean "can run arbitrary code on your tesla at any time with little or no notice"
  
  What I know from publicly-confirmed information: Tesla (hence Musk) have access to the camera feeds, GPS location, remote unlock, remote control of the driving at least sufficient to back the car out of a parking stall to facilitate repossession, and, of course, remote software update. The latter could provide full remote access to everything through new software.
- For the Vegas incident, I'm pretty sure those were customer cars at a collision center.

if you know anything about who did it no you don't
- It's obviously the MAGA crowd. They've spent years complaining about electric vehicles. They've just escalated that to burning them out. The police need to go have a nice chat with the rolling coal types.
- Probably god's will or something. What's the pont of investigating.
- The engineers did this, Teslas just kind of do this.
- Maybe, maybe this is actually stochastic terrorism being carried out by MAGA themselves.
  Think about it, their plan is to declare martial law - right? Conservatives already hate EVs, they think that Trump is a 'good' billionaire while billionaires like Gates are 'bad' billionaires - I don't think it would take much to make Musk out to be a 'bad' billionaire.
  Idk if this is as clear as 'good guys vs bad guys' - these are freedom fighters, but it's never been clearer that a lot of people are divided on what 'free' actually means. You shouldn't assume that the people doing this are actually on your side.
  
  MAGA don't even like EV's to begin with.
  
  maybe im deep in the conspiracy but I'm unsure who is doing the vandalism at this point

Insurance fraud due to slow sales
- perfect. let's see if all tesla dealerships do it

Oh no. Anyway..

Been thinking about this a lot. They can say it’s terrorism. History is written by the winners.
But…
Rebellion is constitutional, but not legal. If you rebel, you die a terrorist or live a hero. Not much middle ground.
- Jan 6ers were pardoned, so by this logic all the car vandalisms are legal too.
- Rebellion is constitutional, but not legal.
  Sure, "we the people" control the government, so technically we can destroy it when we want. However, "we the people" also want a stable government that prevents the minority from ruining things for the majority.
  So if you're going to rebel, you need be very careful that you're on right side, otherwise I think the rest are justified in calling you a terrorist.
  
  Exactly!
- Scary.
  
  Welcome to reality
- How americans see themselves after cowardly vandalising some idiot's car
  
  On face value sure but if they as a vehicle become uninsurable Thats all the better for the world. Those cars are deathtraps anyway.
  
  How Republicans feel after murdering a woman by deciding the fetus is more important.
  
  Hahaha 😂 10/10 meme
  I’m not a big fan of that but I did notice there’s a new 2025 model y. At this point if you buy a Tesla you have it coming. If I saw someone destroying that I would look the other way.
  
  Too bad roasted CEO isn't on the menu yet
  
  I like that the picture doesnt show his belly. Yeah minus the muscles that could be me for sure.
  
  Yee-haw!
  
  What about the Germans and the French? Are they cowards too?

I have never, and will never, see anyone vandalize a Tesla. 🙈

Oh no. Anyways.

I didn't see nuffin

"Trump administration looking to categorize Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism" Because Republicans are cowards without principles who can never even think of opposing him.

Some advice for demonstrations (including propaganda of the deed):
Wear a ski mask. Wear rubber gloves.
Wear anonymous clothing.
Don't trust phones. Don't use them to plan, and leave them turned on at home.
Use a cell structure to organize, and share info on a need-to-know basis only.
Assume there are not only cameras but microphones.
Don't drive anywhere near the location of the demo. Ride-haining services are even worse. Don't even cycle in unless you can go off-road.
Distinguish individuals' property from corporate property.
The goal is to live to fight another day. A fair fight is one in which you don't get hurt.
- Not having the phone with you is critical. But I assume planning is done on a laptop or desktop that is obviously not taken with?
  
  Yep, anonymous browsers, burner accounts, and a VPN if you can. Privacy.sexy is your friend too.
  You just want to set yourself up as best you can for the defense of "you can't prove that was me."

I have zero evidence Musk ordered the Tesla vandalism. Which, coincidentally, is exactly how surprised I'd be to find out he had.
- I'd be surprised if he did. He sees Teslas as an extension of himself. Which is why it's so very effective at upsetting him whenever people do stuff like this.
  
  he almost cried on fox the other day.
- Great way to get rid of rotting inventory and recoup costs through insurance.

Man, if I had the poor luck/foresight to have purchased a Tesla earlier, I would be driving like the politest mofo in existence these days.
- I'd set it on fire and make an insurance claim.
  
  Those damn leftists!

Can't believe the Insurrection Act is gonna be used because of homie's swasticars

"Resist" is a tired slogan of the paid-to-lose Democrats, and the last time I saw it surface as "angry-Leftist vandalism" in pluto-fash corporate media propaganda, it turned out to be a Republican trying to cover up insurance fraud. They are too incurious to understand the difference between antifa and liberals.
Kool-aid-drinking Tesla dealers are losing their shirts because Glorious Leader locked them into bad contracts and is now poisoning the brand; they have AMPLE incentive to destroy their own property and play victim.
- As a reminder, Tesla is "direct to consumer" and the "dealership" is corporate owned!
  So when the party of conspiracy theorists claims conspiracy against them, you can rest assured it's a conspiracy by them.
  But that's what they'd say if the the tables were turned, so fuck 'em and their shit. I hope the insurance adjuster finds a way out and leaves them holding the bag.
  
  As a reminder, Tesla is “direct to consumer” and the “dealership” is corporate owned!
  Gasoline powered vehicles have to be sold through dealerships, but of course Musk doesn't like to follow the law and nobody stops him. Just like how 'ride shares' pretended to be sharing rides but were just cabs with extra steps.
- I don't care who burns 'em. So long as they're burnt.

Oh no!
Anyway...

Ohhhhhh nooooooooooo! Let me grab my very tiny violin.

Oh no! they should be dismantled instead of burned. Some of those electric motors could be put into better use.

Spontaneous combustion

Good. Do more.
- They need to diversify their strategy.

Keep it up!

Very fucking GOOD.

Stick to the showrooms and dealers. The victims in Las Vegas was just owners who brought their cars in to be fixed.
- They can use the insurance money to get a non tesla. Clearly these confused autistic gestures are not working since the de facto tyrannyical government is not reacting to it at all and not labelling it "terrorism".

Stock gone, carry on

they should amend this Wikipedia article to include teslas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_combustion

As a someone from Kansas City I want to say, this is who we are.

Tesla just likes building things that spontaneously catch on fire. 🤷‍♂️

Surely it was a glitch that set the Teslas on fire themselves and no one was involved.

These things happen sometimes…

Nice.

Oh no anyway…

Tough shit.

multiple is not enough.

Looks like false flag.

Don't destroy Tesla cars, destroy the brand. Destroying Teslas means there's fewer Teslas and that makes them more valuable/reduces the flooding of the market caused by people selling their cars. The goal is to annihilate Elon's purchasing power to stop him from using it to implementing fascist governments around the world.
- In fairness, I think the possibility that someone might light your car on fire is a stronger incentive to not buy a brand than internet posts making fun of the brand. It also means now they have to beef up security at all of the dealerships. Car sales are surprisingly impulse driven, hence the famous high pressure sales tactics, so it'll be harder to get people in the door if they're strip searching everyone and if they can't have as much inventory on the lot, customers can't drive home with the options they want so less impulse buying. Also full coverage insurance, required for financing, will get more expensive or even impossible to obtain which possibly means a massively decreased customer pool.
  I think a better counter argument is the environmental damage caused by lighting all the cancer boxes on fire.
  
  Do teslas even have options? Isn't it just the battery pack and awd/rwd and then performance
- Tesla has much higher output than the number of vehicles that spontaneously combust. So the supply shortage you envision won't occur unless cars light up by the hundreds or thousands a day. And that's before accounting for all the extra slack in production created by decreasing demand around the world.
  Teslas combusting damages the brand. It's a material risk of owning a Tesla. It would also mean higher insurance. In fact beyond some combustion threshold, Teslas would become uninsurable. Therefore Teslas on fire directly contributes to decreasing Elon's purchase power.

Thank god

But it’s not on fire?

how does this benefit anyone? I would rather disassemble it/sell it.
- Reduce sales because it will put people off buying one, in theory…
  
  especially people are buying the trucks despite what musk is doing, so the customers are totally ignorant, and also supporting people like musk. alot of people were still buying teslas since 2022 takeover twitter, most of them are complicit.
- Driving up insurance rates is certainly a possibility.
  
  Is the idea to hurt people that bought Teslas a few years ago?
- They're helping put Tesla stock on sale to kindly help new investors get a piece of the company.
- How did the Irish get the UK oppressor to negotiate?
  
  By setting fire to Irish houses in Ireland that were built by the British?
- Drives down the price of teslas.
  Arson isn't essential. A non violent act would be throwing eggs at the swasticar.
  
  Now, is not a time for non violent rebellion.
  
  Apparently eggs cost a lot in the US now
  
  Cut the balls, don't just dust them.

It's only ok to be violent if you're a Republican. I'm not supporting this, but since Jan 6'ers were pardoned then these car vandalisms are totally legal too. I think they're equally immoral.
- You think the coup attempt that ended lives is just as bad as property damage?
  
  Well the property damage was only in response to the actual violence. So it's like slapping your murderer.

Tesla will simply give the people new vehicles. If one wants to really hurt Tesla, don't buy them.
- Arguably making it a bad to own tesla would cost the company a lot more faster since nobody would want any of them. It is kinda assholish since people bought those terrible piles of garbage since they were told they were green and rich people luxury flex, while they refused to do their research about the vehicle and its innumerable issues.
  Honestly dumping the bank owned car you keep in your yard for appearances for cheap would be a good idea since tesla will kill you in an otherwise survivable accident and it will turn off autopilot microseconds before crash in order to blame you.

still figuring out car bombs....

Thanks for hurting the environment I guess. Could have just boycotted tesla products and corporate tesla

"good terrorism" should be the next word of the year
- terror act it self inherently is neither good or bad. people assign it that value depending on which side of the fuckening they come out.
  i for one don't cry over some rich man's brand being destroy, the same way this man does not crime about us poors suffering.
  that's just the world we live in and that's ok. i just wish more peasants got woke on the rules.
- When you commit "terrorism" against the fascist enemies of the American people, is not terrorism it's the right thing to do

Wow. Having not read the article (just the headline)… I seriously don’t understand why people torch/destroy other peoples stuff! Yes Elon bad, but why attack innocent civilians?! 10-ish years ago, you were considered a leftist nutjob with a hardon for climate change when you bought a Tesla (note: I do firmly believe in climate change), these days you’re a nazi driving the exact same car?… Debate, discussion, even disagreement between parties is all fine and dandy, but actually destroying other peoples property is - in my honest opinion - against the very thing people ‘are fighting for’.
- because true love is only possible in the next world, for new people. it is too late for us. so they wreak havoc on the middle class. tesla owners aren't exactly in the same working class that the arsonist is likely radicalized by being a part of. burning the cars send a message to nazis, to elon directly, and to a lesser but still real extent, the petty bourgeois class that acts as the operating oppressive arm of the oligarchy. not saying its right or moral or good or bad for any cause, just likely the mindset of someone who is setting fire to nazi cars in 2025.
  
  A tesla is well within the range of affordable for a working class person. Someone with a decent job will be making 100k, and it's not hard to get a Tesla on that budget.
  
  the petty bourgeois class that acts as the operating oppressive arm of the oligarchy.
  Good grief.

Imagine having to resort to violence against a private company just because you lost an election LMAO 🤣
You guys do realize that by promoting this, you are doing JD Vance's campaign for him, right?
The stunlock continues at pace.
- If the major stakeholder and CEO is actively being an unelected politician addressing policy changes onto the public, then repercussions need to happen.
  It would not be wise to show people that they can achieve plutocracy. Plutocrats only lose their power by losing their wealth, so if that's what has to happen, then that is the plan.
- I'm not from the US, but I straight out recommend quickly educating oneself about military stuff at this point - about fiber guided drones (here in Eastern Europe we like them) and remote weapons stations (we like those too). Because the US is heading somewhere at a rapid pace. Let's hope it won't get there (the simplest and most civil obstacle would be lots of court cases and Trumpists losing midterm elections), but if it does, then strongly worded letters will not suffice.
  Trump's administration:
  “Agency,” unless otherwise indicated, means any authority of the United States that is an “agency” under 44 U.S.C. 3502(1), and shall also include the Federal Election Commission.
  Vance, in his old interviews:
  “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”
  Also Vance:
  “We are in a late republican period,” Vance said later, evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar. “If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild, and pretty far out there, and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”
  Googling "how to remove a dictator?" when you already have one is doing it too late. On the day the self-admitted wannabe Caesar crosses his Rubicon, it better be so that some people already know what to aim at him.
  Tesla dealerships... nah. I would not advise spending energy on them. But people, being only people, get emotional and do that kind of things.
- And to go and take it out on people who aren't involved, just because they own a vehicle. Childish brats.