Something people who say that don't seem to understand is that you can support a group of peoples right to exist and not be genocided, even if they would kill you in a different situation. Human rights aren't conditional on how they would treat you in return.
You sooner or later be a dead gay in Gaza.
I'm just speculating here, but I guess even for the LGBTQ+ community there, not being shot dead or starved is the more pressing concern atm.
If I were gay in Gaza, I'd probably be killed by an Israeli civilian-targeting missile strike
It is disturbing how many people here do the thing the meme is ridiculing.
https://www.queeringthemap.com/
Living in fear and dying alone, my actual nightmare, and what makes me so merciless in how I view rural conservatives stateside.
They'll see this shit and think it's just desserts. Then they'll tell their kids about it, and some of those kids are gonna lay awake wondering how they could ever hope to get out of knowing their parents unwittingly believe they should be murdered for existing.
Gay folks in Gaza were among some of the folks that would routinely go to the desert venue that Hamas attacked on the 7th because the morality police wouldn't be able to drag them off during performances or for being open at the festivals.
Only other place they could go to know a taste of that freedom was Turkey.
Still makes the israeli soldiers shooting at them and bombing them the biggest most proximate threat to their ability to live openly right now.
Is this... are you asking me out? I'm getting mixed signals here 😉
Sadly, no need to go that far: black people forced to live in the "Al abeed" neighborhood (i will let you search what it means). Being jew or white foreigner makes you a target.
This is how their society evolved on their own, they have not been forced onto this path of intolerance... They could have rejected Hamas and Iran influence a long time ago. They did not...
Yeah sure, what is happening is sad, mainly for the kids. But if i had to choose between stopping this shit show or saving one child from infantile cancer, i would choose the child. And if god exists (how ironic it would be), he would too.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1720057376823234752
People telling her to shut up are not Hamas, but regular palestinian...
Yes and being a woman there is also terrible, it's a good thing they're only slaughtering the civilians that oppress others and not the victims of oppression too.
To me, it sounds like you are expressing that you think that the "regular" Palestinians are supportive of Hamas.
Have you considered that they tell her to shut up because they don't want her to make herself the target of Hamas?
I don't even understand how this moral calculation makes sense in any consistent moral system.
Are you saying you approve of the genocide on adults to the point that it trumps the hundreds of thousands of innocent kids'death surplus if you choose the cancer kid?
Would you apply this same logic of your own country or is it just because it's far away and maybe you don't care so much for brown people?
It's a legitimate complaint. In my part of Canada we have several pride parades led by pro-Palestinian groups, which is absurd not only because there are no Palestinians in it, but because nearly everybody in the parade would be persecuted in Palestine. A trans rights group I've been involved in for a while had a faction break away because we weren't pro-Palestine enough (whatever that means).
I support the creation of a Palestinian state, but queer support of that cause must come with support of queer people in Palestine, rather than pretending they don't exist.
Edit: also, nice nose on that comic. Time to check OP's post history...The reason trans groups openly support Palestine is because Israel is actively involved in Pinkwashing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkwashing_(LGBT). AKA Using gay people as an excuse to commit ethnic cleansing.
By taking away that shield Israel loses social support. Also noteworthy is that gay marriage is banned in Israel.
The status of queer people in Palestine has nothing to do with Israel. There is absolutely nothing preventing Palestinians from stopping their persecution of their queer brothers and sisters. Deflections like yours are exactly part of the problem - you are throwing queer Palestinians under the bus just to fuel your crusade against Israel. What you are doing is actively harmful to LGBTQ+ rights.
We've been over this, normal people don't question the nose size of their wojack memes
Thanks for the source on that. It's still questionable to choose it for this context specifically, but I crossed out my statement.
There are queer people in Gaza and they are being bombed just like everyone else.
For those out of the loop, Gaza still persecutes lgbtq people, up to 10 years in jail per "incident" of having queer sex.
Theres also been a few vigilante murders of lgbtq people.
Just because they massacred 1200 people and started a war they couldnt finish does not mean that theyre nice people.
The meme is about generalising and grouping all Gazans under the same labels to justify the genocide. It's racist and covers up their struggle.
There LGBTQ Gazans, there are handicapped Gazans, there are racist Gazans, there are homophobic Gazans, there are straight Gazans, etc.
They're human beings with their flaws and qualities, and regardless of their views, they shouldn't endure whatever the fuck Israel is doing to them. Nobody should, ever.
