Youtube added shorts to the subscriptions page, pushing the subscriptions almost entirely off the page...

God, Youtube has gone to shit lately.

Lately in this context, meaning about the last 15 or so years.

uBlock Origin makes this easy:

Instructions	Screenshot
1. Find a Shorts section on the page
2. Select the element picker in uBlock Origin
3. Select the Shorts section
4. Click "Create"
5. Enjoy

You can hide segments like that with ublock, fwiw. It's been really useful to me for these kinds of changes every single website seems to be pushing these days.

Youtube added shorts to subscription, and i added Youtube-shorts block to firefox.

I hate this format of content so much. An automatically reloading, never ending stream of snippets that are hardly informative even if they try. Fucking looks like they are trying to hypnotize us.

Oh wait, they absolutely are. Stop thinking about not being able to afford a living even though you bust your ass of everyday. Stop worrying about the climate. Get a new iphone and obediently watch citizen.

What I really hate about shorts is the lack of video controls? Do you really have to remove them, Google? Then there's the looping videos that are cute when you first see them then get old and add nothing fast.

I just hate how much functionality the Shorts player loses compared to the regular Youtube player. They seriously made their product worse to imitate a competitor? Who asked for this?

Fuck YouTube shorts. It's infuriating that YouTube doesn't provide us an option to remove all traces of that fuckin cancer from the platform.

Just add this line to the "My Filters" section for the uBlock Origin extension.

1. click the extension in your top bar
2. click the "gears" icon/button
3. click the "My Filters" tab and add this line :

www.youtube.com###content > .ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope

My original mastadon post has screenshots with red guide marks in case this is confusing:

https://mas.to/@JDPoZ/110736154436202944

This is like going to the drug store to an inhaler but their entrance takes you through the perfume section to get to the pharmacy.

Welcome to the worlds best anti-monopoly education. See just why monopolies suck in real time!

I don't get why everyone is so mad about this. When I saw it yesterday, I was glad they finally put them into a separate box I can just scroll past. Before, Shorts were just mixed in between the normal videos in the subscription feed and that was fucking awful.

Anyone get an update on for their TV app this week?

Went from having reasonably-sized thumbnails, to these over-sized ones where only like 2.5 of them fit horizontally and less than 1.5 of them fit vertically. They are obnoxiously huge which means to see what videos are in your feed you have to do a ton of needless scrolling.

Just a week ago, it wasn't like this - I think you could see 4 horizontally and 3 vertically before which is perfect for a living room experience.

My favorite part is that there is no way to make any adjustments. If you are going to change something like this, at least let me change it back. WTF?

I fucking hate shorts so much. I completely blocked them:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-shorts-block/jiaopdjbehhjgokpphdfgmapkobbnmjp

Reduced the amount of videos per row too, had to find a ublock filter for that one.

If anyone is interested: https://pastebin.com/raw/SMVYXFHe

It’s sad having a front row seat to The Internet slowly killing itself.

How is it that such a shitty site/corporation has continued to maintain a grip on this market? Why aren't we inundated with viable alternatives?

Honestly this is better than it was - prior to this change the shorts were just mixed in with the regular videos ... now at least you can scroll past them and see only videos.

Check out Piped, Invidious, Newpipe and Libretube! ;)

Boy am I glad I have the extension that makes shorts invisble

They also still seem to run user-testing on hiding these sections for 30 days. I had this option a few months ago, then it vanished and today it was back again. Maybe enough people are still actively hiding it so that YouTube still doesn't fully commit to shorts. Let's hope it stays that way, they are annoying and I couldn't care less about another Instagram cat video algorithm.

I wish they would give us a user setting to completely hide shorts from ever showing. I have never watched a short and I will never watch a short. It’s just not the type of content for me. If I wanted TikTok style videos, I would download TikTok. It’s crazy how much stuff YouTube tries to cram down your throat even as a premium subscriber.

Edit: also just a great example of companies jumping on a bandwagon to make a quick buck. YouTube is a well established video hosting and streaming service, they didn’t need to spend how every many millions of dollars adding shorts (not that they would have bothered spending that money on the user/creator experiences anyways)

I highly suggest using Enhancer for YouTube, it allows you to hide shorts and also convert them to normal video player so you can seek them like any other YouTube video.

There's also multitude of different customisation options, you can hide related videos, change default comment order, disable comments altogether, expand the description ;)

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/enhancer-for-youtube/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhancer-for-youtube/ponfpcnoihfmfllpaingbgckeeldkhle https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/enhancer-for-youtube™/dlgfaleeejmphhnemjgiaekdbonkagkd

Worse, they have started playing Shorts without my consent as soon as I open the app.

Worse: When you watch a short that appeared in your search results, all related videos are general shorts and NOT more search results. It's too distracting, and for a person with ADHD such as myself, it kills my productivity. 🤬

If you use Ublock you can use this filter to clean Shorts from Youtube (FTR you only need 2 lines near the bottom that have the word 'short' in them, but Lemmy formatting is balls so it's all or nothing):

! https://www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com##.yt-spec-button-shape-next--size-m.yt-spec-button-shape-next--mono.yt-spec-button-shape-next--outline.yt-spec-button-shape-next > yt-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape--touch-response.yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape__fill
www.youtube.com##.yt-spec-button-shape-next--size-m.yt-spec-button-shape-next--mono.yt-spec-button-shape-next--outline.yt-spec-button-shape-next > yt-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape--touch-response.yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape > .yt-spec-touch-feedback-shape__stroke
www.youtube.com###sponsor-button
www.youtube.com###top-level-buttons-computed > ytd-button-renderer.ytd-menu-renderer.style-scope > yt-button-shape
www.youtube.com###flexible-item-buttons > .ytd-menu-renderer.style-scope > yt-button-shape
www.youtube.com##.ytd-topbar-logo-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-logo.style-scope
www.youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false)
www.youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0)
www.youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, [])
www.youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)
www.youtube.com##.ytp-quality-menu [role="menuitemradio"]:has-text(Premium)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-grid-row)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-grid-row)
www.youtube.com##.ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-rich-shelf-renderer.style-scope

I would say *it's time to federate", but the path to monetization is nonexistent. Production value costs money and there should at least be a way to make that back. But as with open source software regarding monetization, federated platforms are overtly anti-monetization, demanding there be no ads, paid subscription or any integrated payment that is linked to the actual content (for analytics and tax purposes, which is key if you want to run it as a business).

The general consensus I seem to get from tankies and anarchists on Matrix and here on the fediverse is that they don't want anyone who makes any money to take part, thereby creating a "boys club" specifically catering to their whims.

A bit of an aside, I know, but I thought it should be said.

YouTube Shorts is a blight on humanity. It is even more sinister than TikTok. No joke. Glad that you can add an extension to block the YouTube "shorts".

This feels like an ad, I use premium and they should give us the option to hide it

Ok don't get me wrong (fuck shorts, they're a terrible follow of a trend across so many platforms), but at least on mobile it seems like they're shorts from people I subscribe to 🤷‍♂️ so I'm cool with supporting the folks I subscribe to, I guess

Youtube is so aesthetically and functionally unappealing nowadays, I lose interest in browsing even my own subs. I don't care what users "like me" are watching nor what I "might like". The only way to see my subs vids is with Piped.

There really is no avoiding tic tok is there?

Even creators I used to respect started creating this adhd-friendly nonsense with 0 educational value.

I can’t imagine how someone born today is going to grow up to be a functional human being. All the big corporations are controlling every single little thing they see.

If you happen to use any user script extension already (like Violentmonkey) or don't want to use a dedicated extension to fix stupid design decisions, I can recommend https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/405614-youtube-polymer-engine-fixes.

At first shorts were pretty neat, now they're the same shovel-ware from TikTok. I literally see copy/paste TikToks with the stupid follow animation every few videos, or subway surfer videos that progressively takeover the bottom of the screen with every short. Actual cancer now.

Good thing ublock origin exists, shorts are awful

use yewtu.be instead... Videos from Youtube on a different website

That format was fine, actually, since it chucked all the shorts into a single row, then you can scroll by them easily. My sub page has gone back to interspersing them in-line with normal videos and it’s massively infuriating.

Shorts are nothing but thirst traps for me. Damn it's hard not to click, but I regret it every time I do. There's never actually good content in them.

YouTube shorts feel like a weird attempt to enter a market that YouTube doesn't really fit. I understand the business philosophy behind it, but I wish they would prioritize improvements to their main services over their side projects.

Unhook is a good Firefox extension to control Youtube's bs

Fix: use newpipe on mobile and invidious on PC

No algorithms, chronological order from subscriptions , no shorts

I use Youtube via the channels RSS feeds. If there is a short I mark it as read and read on.

To get rid of Shorts without any extensions, this tip works for the mobile app, I presume it works for Web too.

Click on the 3 dots by a Short and select "Not interested" or similar. Repeat this until every Short in the section is gone. Now the whole section disappears and stays this way. It hasn't come back yet for me since I did this a few weeks ago.

Laughs in revanced

I'm gonna have to set something up to hide the thirst trap shorts of the girl who plays guitar poolside in either just a bra or braless in a thin light colored shirt. I just want videos from old dudes who teach me how to make pedal circuits.

Oh dear. I still see a screenful of normal videos before that batch. Hopefully it remains like so for me. I wonder if free users see ads on that page as well.

I am just blocking that tiktok shit with browser extension.

https://github.com/Vulpelo/hide-youtube-shorts

this works for me

I just installed the Youtube-shorts block extension which is available for both chrome & firefox. Between that and still using a revanced patched youtube apk hopefully I never have to see shorts again.

I haven't used that page even once after started using pocket tube extension.

damn you cant even hide them like you can on mobile that sucks.

we really want the TikTok audience

I tried a few 'shorts' blocking extensions on Firefox with weird and inconsistent results. I started hiding every 'short' on my subs page before picking anything to watch. They've magically disappeared as of a couple days ago.

The real issue is your YouTube algorithm bro. What in the trash tube are you watching?

I feel like all the people talking about how to block Shorts are missing the point.

I generally only use the Android client. But if there's any similarity, there's no way to stop them spamming you with their shorts.

YouTube be like

But now they separate your subscribed channel's shorts for their regular videos. Since most channels put out 3-6 shorts a day, all they did was clog my feed. Now I can at least ignore the shorts section to see the long form videos I care about.

That's why I've stopped looking in my subscriptions, too much clutter..

Okay, can someone explain to me why this is bad?

Shorts on the front page is fucking stupid, no arguments there.

But shorts in the subscription feed is kind of what I want? If I am subscribe to a channel, it is because I like their content. By having it in the subscription feed, I can see if a clickbaity thumbnail or title is an I Did a Thing video or a right wing lunatic who genuinely wants to throw saw blades at children.

And if your feed is full of too many shorts? Maybe prune some channels from your subscription feed?

I may be weird, but I don't mind the YouTube shorts too much.

It's like a little taste of the people I subscribe to.

If only we had invented a device that could scroll the web page... Some kind of wheel maybe? It could even go directly on the mouse.

Guess we'll just have to suffer until then.