Mildly Infuriating @lemmy.world Flying Squid @lemmy.world 1 mo. ago

I am getting inundated with calls from some sort of tax scam and it's driving me nuts.

Just a sampling from last week. Every single one of these is the same scam. I had another seven yesterday.

I never answer and they always leave the same prerecorded voicemail message (although that message seems to change every few days) about me owing taxes, which I absolutely don't.

I also get most of them within an hour, which makes it even more annoying.

And yes, I'm on the do not call list.

Someone please make it stop!

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It's likely a robocaller, in which case, send them to a recording of the SIT intercept tone.
This thing: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IC_SIT.ogg

It needs to be the first thing the machine hears, so might not work as a voicemail welcome message if your provider has their intro before your message.

It might take a few calls/days before you're purged from their multiple instances of robocallers.
- A cropped version of this used to be the outgoing message on my voicemail for years. People hated it, but it did seem to trick robo calls with that tone. But yeah, it depends on the carrier not inserting their own message before the user-configured greeting.
- That's cool. Thanks!
Settings -> Apps -> Phone -> Silence Unknown Callers

Might make it more bearable if you're not already using it. But it's still annoying even then.
- Thanks, that will help. Although I hope the legitimate unknown calls I get, and I do get them not infrequently due to things like medical issues, will know to leave a voicemail.
  
  They will unfortunately also get filtered. What I do is to direct important callers to ensure they leave a VM, or send an email or text.
Does anyone answer if you call back?

I love fucking with the actual scammers. Last time I actually paid for an eFax subscription and kept spamming them back with fax calls.

It took a day or two but they stopped calling.
- These scammers generally call from spoofed numbers. If you call them back, some very confused person is doing to answer and have no idea what you're talking about.
  
  I’ve never personally used it, but https://www.trapcall.com is a service that can reportedly unmask spoofed/blocked numbers and provide you with the actual number a person is calling from.
  
  I did computer telephony work many years ago and have a general understanding of how this works. Caller ID is trivial to spoof, but there’s an underlying protocol called Automatic Number Identification (ANI) that was historically used for long distance billing when those calls were billed by the minute. Since it involves billing it can’t be spoofed by the caller, and the telephone companies are careful to ensure it’s accurate. What Trapcall apparently does is replace the spoofed Caller ID with the ANI.
  
  Good old caller id spoofing.
- I'd be worried about trying because they'd think I was doing it because I missed their call and would be a good mark.
  
  That's when you've got them on the hook. Then you string them along until they finally realize that you've been messing with them the entire time and start angrily cursing you over the phone.
  
  I make it my personal mission to waste as much of those shitbags time as possible.
- I had an older lady call me to ask why I had been calling her phone. Had to explain that scammers were faking caller ID numbers, it wasn't me, and everyone was dealing with the same garbage phone calls. She was initially ready to chew me out, but deflated pretty quickly when she realized her vexation would have to be vented toward someone else.
If you can, turn off unknown callers from being able to reach you.

I’ve done this and it’s been wonderful. The spams have actually decreased significantly since I don’t answer the phone for them at all anymore.

It’s under Settings > Phone (have to go into Apps in iOS 18) > Silence Unknown Callers

Anyone who is not in your contacts gets a ring but the ring doesn’t go to you so you don’t hear it and don’t answer. They can leave a voicemail but scammers never leave me voicemails.
- Someone else showed me that earlier and I turned it on. So far, so good!
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you cant stop them, unless you make it not worth the effort and get removed from the call list.

Maybe answer the call like this https://youtube.com/shorts/2JYzH_CZ3Xo?si=EBugfIt-EXiGxATl
- I'm guessing if I ever answered, they'd call me even more.
  
  Can confirm. I used to answer the calls to waste their time, ask them to hold while I go take a shit etc. I started to get more calls after doing this, until about a week in when the scammer told me to fuck off and stop wasting his time! After that, not so many calls.
  
  I answer unknown calls and then immediately mute my mic. Most of the time it's a bot that might call back once more, occasionally it's somebody that gets an explanation of why i just made things weird. been doung that for years and now I only get spam calls maybe once or twice a month tops, if even that much
- Yeah...don't ever answer scam calls even if you wanna make some dumb tiktiok brainrot.
Yet Another Call Blocker has worked brilliantly for me, for years how. This stuff doesn't even show up in my call log.
Any chance you have a frienemy that is doing shenanigans?
- If so, it's a long-term frienemy if they know my phone number.
Start reporting these numbers to the FBI as scam-related.

Once they realize any number that calls you gets burned, they’ll stop.
- The can spoof any number. They usually go with something local (to you) to increase the odds of you picking up.
  
  Calling back will get you Bob on the other side of town who has no idea what missed call you're talking about.
  
  Do you have a source on them being able to spoof any number? I find that hard to believe

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