Suppose we learn the CEO was killed over something ordinary and the shooter was a basic murderer. What does the reaction to this death say, if anything about this moment in history?

It speaks to how powerless people feel here in America.

That's what it says.

If you don't want most of the world to celebrate your death, try to be less of an asshole.

Well, the bullets had the motive written on them in sharpie, so I don’t think there’s any chance this is a random murder, right?

The ceo was an actual villain no matter the actual motive.

nazi Germany didn't lose because the world cared about the genocide, its because the world didn't like their invasion of other countries. Nevertheless, I celebrate the downfall of nazi Germany and death of hitler.

Same thing can be applied here. Doesn't matter if this mass murderer CEO fell down some stairs, choked on a burger, or get beaten to death over a personal dispute, death of a killer is a good thing.

I don't think his intentions matter at this point. People have already made him a folk hero. He could say he shot him because he stepped on his shoe and there's a good chance people will still say, "Valid, fuck that guy."

That's not just hypothetical but downright false. The shooter made his motive very clear.

I mean, is this just a wild hypothetical? Because it's really obvious that this isn't the case. Nothing about this murder was normal. He wasn't some professional killer because he was sloppy with cameras and the garbage in Starbucks. But he definitely plotted and planned to murder this guy. And then he purposely left evidence of his motive. The gun he used was rare, and he clearly trained with the weapon because of how quickly he was able to clear the jam he had and then kept firing.

Good riddance to bad shit. Sometimes the right thing for the wrong reasons is right enough

It's still a warning sign that a large number people no longer feel peacefully working within the system can address societal issues.

That's what I've been wondering, we really don't even know what the motive was, but the one thing that kind of elevates this beyond him being a "basic murderer" is the carved words on the bullets. That seems to suggest some kind of motive above just him being a hitman or just killing some random person.

Regardless, I think most people are having the reaction they're having to this because of our ridiculous healthcare system, everyone recognizes it as a problem and alot of people have a loved one who has been wronged by it. Almost any other issue would've created a partisan split where Republicans took one position and Democrats took the other position. That a set of clear Left/Right narratives haven't emerged yet kind of suggests that alot of people aren't particularly bothered by it. Where this goes though is anyone's guess, maybe it's just a single unified moment that is quickly overshadowed by some other bullshit that comes along.

It says we don't care how wealthy people die. We just want them to be six feet under.

That we care too much about randos with lots of money earned from stealing sick people? 🙃

the ceo is paid big because his decisions affect a lot of lives.

in this case, the killer can be any of these people the ceo has affected on some policy he let pass. the killer could even be just an enforcing arm of some one, or some group.

on one side, you can see this reaction as just part of his "job description". even doctors know toying with people's health have grave consequences.

The effect that Gun violence has against one man vs a plethora of school children.

CEO murdered.... Yep, that's all we need.

Doesn't change much for me. Violence is a consequence of a broken system. Whatever the motive was, fixing the system is the solution either way.

Serendipity :)

The bullets had a very specific heath insurance mantra inscribed on them, "deny, defend, depose". Highly unlikely it was a random occurrence. I really believe the shooter was wronged somehow, but UHC. Maybe they denied a claim that lead to the death of a loved one, etc.

Your hypothetical makes no sense because murder is not ordinary or basic. But even if it were... "Couldn't have happened to a worse person." Right? "Karma's a motherfucker." Right?

Many Americans are so blindly patriotic that they don't realize their health insurance system is much worse than dozens of other countries. At the same time, many of these Americans also know that they're being scammed. It is interesting to look at that cognitive dissonance. And it is interesting to look at mainstream media, so afraid to point out how screwed everyone in the country is, because of some evil rich assholes.

it doesnt matter. It wouldnt matter if he killed him because he didnt like how he tied his shoelaces.

what matters is we have unifying event and if its allowed to be wasted then its all fucked. And i dont mean rallying people to start killing everyone but rallying people to stop being apathetic and demand change together.

I go from it being a statement about the times to a mundane murder that warrants no coverage.

He had a sweet life until he didn't. Still don't feel bad. If that makes me a bad person, well, America doesn't care about that either clearly so guess it is what it is. Shrug emoji

Don't extort people using their health?

What the hell is a "basic murderer"?

meh. Ends justify the means. Destination, not how you get there.

That’s kind of what I want to know.

But more so, I wonder for a lot of the people who are happy about it…what if it turned out the murder was for something like the CEO was secretly gay and the killer hated him for being gay? What if it was because the CEO was a leftist and that’s why he was murdered?

Basically, what if the reason wasn’t because he was a CEO of an insurance company?

Would people change their tune or is the fact he was killed good enough?

Edit: for the record, I’m a little indifferent to the whole thing. I think murder in cold blood is absolutely wrong, but I do get the feeling this was someone who was heated, to put it mildly, over them or their loved ones’ treatment under UHC. I had them a few years ago at work and thankfully we got off of them after 1 year because they were dogshit. I’m also a bit biased here because I have a loved one who almost certainly spent the last bit of their life in extreme pain and depression and then eventual death solely because of greedy insurance (Kaiser, fuck them). I felt something in me when I heard their CEO died under similar conditions after my loved one passed.

But…I find it odd for people to be cheering and hoping the murderer walks with no charges. We frankly don’t know the true motive behind it and we never truly will since he can claim whatever he wants if caught.

Idk…I just wondered the above for those who feel this way and their sincere opinion on the matter as I laid it out. Not really trying to test the waters or create havoc, just genuinely curious in answers.

It means society is in danger because lots of people think lots of other people deserve death.

The reaction to the death already demonstrates peoples' misplaced priorities, and it being a mundane murder (or inspired by, say, a highly disagreeable agenda) would just put, as they say, egg on their face.

The last time this happened, Batman was born.