Luigi Mangione Judge Married to Former Healthcare Executive

Country wide outage at the corruption involved with the health insurance
Health insurance industry: we can make it worse
- outrage*
  Also, not an insurance company. He worked for Pfizer.
  
  Pfizer is a med company. They negotiate with insurance. They work together to fuck us over.

They're certainly not being subtle with the class warfare
- They haven't been since they got raked from COVID-19 and shutdowns tanking their stocks in 2020. So they price gouge with inflation and shrinkflation, keep prices high to make up the difference and fuck us over. Then they keep the prices artificially high, raising prices on entertainment, force people back to the office, and use those as talking points to tank democrat campaigns.
  They've been openly at war for the last 5-years or so. Just like Gaza, you can only trap people in misery for so long before they lose just enough to make it worth fighting back with violence. We're on the cusp of that backlash and I have a feeling the next 4+ years are gonna see the blowup.

I knew they were going to try him in a kangaroo court, I just didn't think they'd be this obvious about it.
- The justice system probably assigned the judge randomly. It's just finding a judge without wealth is impossible ... which in and of itself is a problem.
  
  what you expect from a country where judges in the highest court get bribed with "gifts" and "private" trips, while at the same time ignore "international laws" and threaten the most recognized court in the world. What you expect from a government and country that allow a rapist, felon, to be a president while enabling the killing of more than 30 000 kids and women (year old worst estimates).
  Such government will have no regards for it is own citizen and this is just the start of worse to come if people don't step in.

Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting.
I need the bootlickers to show up and tell me it's just coincidence.
The whole damn thing is a show. They are terrified. The book they usually play by isn't working. What will happen? The amount of support Luigi has is astounding. It's even a topic I tested the waters with at work and these people I work with make a decent living.
America is waking up. I feel it.
- Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
  
  That's literally what it's taken in the past. It took the fear of communism to really get unionization accepted in the US. In other eras it's taken the threat of invasion by external powers.
- I genuinely think that they'll have a hard time finding an impartial jury.... I think that at this point, pretty much anyone who doesn't live under a rock has heard of him and has an opinion on whether he should be found guilty.
  Regardless of which way you fall on that particular topic, you're biased, and that would exclude you from serving on the jury.
  
  I thought the same thing about the Trump trial, but they legitimately turned over rocks and found the most oblivious Americans living under them. There are evidently tons of people out there living in their own little bubble, completely untethered from the news media or even just casual conversations with strangers and probably have no idea who Luigi is right now. The news might not be able to reach them, but a jury summons from the state can, and the prosecution is going to hunt for these individuals specifically.
  
  The 65+ crowd view him unfavorably, so I expect the jury to be a bunch of 65+ people
  
  I've spoken with friends about this is Denmark, and we all read the news with great pleasure.
  
  Correct. And I strongly suspect they are wildly pumping out news about him to narrow the juror pool to people who do live under rocks.
  The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.
  His defense, in any case, has a very difficult task - they need to be able to somehow communicate him being innocent against stacked charges OR paint him light that the rest of us see that leans them towards Jury Nullification.
  My hope is that potential jurors hide their bias, which isn't easy, but gives him the best chance.

That’s definitely a conflict of interest.
- I'm sure the judge will recuse themselves to avoid any appearance of impropriety... ^/s
  
  As Clarence Thomas has proved.
  (Sack of shit.)
  
  As judges always do…

A certain fair and unbiased trial he's getting..../s
- That was the magistrate. Whether the trial will be biased is something we don't know yet.

There were 24,849 homicides in 2022.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
Almost none of them, if any, likely required a nationwide manhunt.
Not one of them required an escort of 30 police officers plus a helicopter to the courtroom.
As far as I can tell, none of them were charged with terrorism.
And now he's getting as biased a judge as he could possibly get.
If we're going to start charging murderers with terrorism, let's start with the cops.

Rich people being shot means nature is healing ❤️
- Life, uh, finds a way

This is the sort of thing judges are supposed to recuse themselves over.

Surely she’ll do the right thing and recuse herself from the case.
- She won't, and don't call her Shirley!

"conflict of interest" was old speak from the dark ages.
- We are in the second Gilded Age

you people clearly don't know what you are talking about. "conflict of interest" only happens if it conflicts the interests of billionaires

I would think it might be excusable if this were a straight-up murder charge, which is mostly facts and evidence based. However, if they're charging him with terrorism, which is much more subjective, doesn't that make this a serious conflict of interest?
- No. It's inexcusable. Even if he pooped on her lawn she should have no right to be legally judging him.
- Can't help but be biased here. The facts fit too well. Remember, bias has to do with the perception of poor judgment. We don't need to gamble on it.

Doesn't seem like a conflict of interest /s
- No such things. These are professional/s.

Land of the fee.
- Home of the Whopper©.
- You have to be willfully delusional or retarded to believe that.
  
  Maybe you didn't see that I wrote fee, not free. :)

This judge needs to recuse themselves from the case.

Second corroborating article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/luigi-mangione-judge-married-former-211332729.html
- I’m going to nitpick here. The main reference for this Yahoo/daily Beast article is OP. That’s not corroborating.
  
  Honestly the data in the article is the reference so yeah
  
  Yes, but they add context to the source so you don't have to trust that the blog is reputable. Secondary source.

Once against proving we have a two tiered justice system.

I guess conflicts of interest just aren't a thing anymore.
- Nothing to be avoided anymore. Something to seek out.
- IKR. They are allowed to veto jurors or ti move the whole trial in order to reach a nonbias journey but apparently that doesn’t apply to the judge? Yikes beyond yikes.

Yikes. Incredibly messed up.

Definitely good reason to get them swapped out for a different judge but are they going to oversee the whole trial or just the pretrial?
Also, they were an executive at Pfizer, not an insurance firm.
- Pfizer isn't exactly in the good graces of the public either.
  For profit healthcare is the problem. It's not the doctors, or nurses, or phlebotomists, or pharmacists that are trying to save lives. It's the people who handle the money fucking around with people's lives so they can make more.
  
  Right now it's the largest pharmaceutical company in the USA maybe on earth, so definitely can't be morally upright. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
- Yes, you're right, Pfizer has absolutely no relationship with the insurance companies.
  We're idiots guys, let's pack it up and move on!
  
  I said it was a good enough reason for them to recuse themself.

Kill her husband? Send a message?

It's the magistrate judge doing the pretrial hearings, not the trial judge. Not great, but not quite as outrageous.

Justice for Luigi is going to sail away with Judge parker at the helm.
- Maybe this is a good thing? I'm not super familiar with american justice system but isn't his case is mostly betting on jury acquitting or using jury nullification or at least taking him to strong settlement? Having a judge like this would definitely sway the jury in Luigi's favor.
  
  It's unlikely that Luigi's defense will be allowed to inform the jurors about the judge's conflict of interest
  
  wow

America can you not be corrupt for one single moment please
- Nope. the days of pretending are over. Now its the days of gangsters with "fuck you money" ruling the country, and everyone else being told to deal with it. Basically Russia in the 1990s as everything is robbed and pilfered by private interests
  
  That only happens if they're not stopped.

Say what you can about communism, but you clearly see that capitalism is so much worse.
- lol and I say this as someone who grew up in Soviet occupied eastern europe. Trust me, there are very few systems worse than communism, well at least, that version of it.
  
  Free medicine is nice, though. Not very high quality sometimes, but still better, than bankruptcy after ambulance ride.
  Free high school education is a good option too.
- Communism lifted an illiterate nation of serfs into an industrial and atomic super power in, like, 50 years.
  Which is to say just as bad as capitalism but approximately four times faster.
  
  Heard someone say that their grandparents who left the USSR during the collapse in the early 90's told them something along the lines of "not everything the Soviet government promised us about communism was true, but everything they told us about capitalism is true."
  
  I don’t think any of the nations who call themselves “communists” can actually be considered communist. Hell, most of them are pretty much dictatorships, which is the farthest you can get from communism.
  
  But was it communism? Or was it labour camps and dictatorship?
  
  It was also responsible for the highly anti-intellectual culture that existed and still continues in said country today. So it swings both ways.
  
  approximately four times faster.
  It's easy to be faster when you're catching up to already existing tech, I doubt their economic system mattered much in that regard
  
  Yes, USSR became a superpower where most areas were without toilets…
- Judges don't have conflicts of interest in communism?
  
  They don't have additional benefits of owning insurance company everyone else doesn't. And neither there would be insurance companies anyway.
- Okay, move to Cuba or North Korea where they still try to pursue communism and where they still have not realized how broken system it is. You will surely enjoy life there :D
  
  You think North Korea's godking is the accurate administration of communism...?
  
  Cuba seems like a decent place to live tbh, especially given the circumstances that we've imposed on them.
  They have some of the best healthcare and doctors in the world.

Remember remember!
The 4th of December
A CEO dies all alone;
On the street he was lain,
cold, pale and in pain,
thousands of deaths that he own.
The decisions he'd struck,
Layers removed from the slaughter,
Were a shareholder's treat,
Your dead mother or daughter.
Those investors all wait, on that cold winter morn,
Still unawares of profit potential they'd mourn,
Poking at hotel breakfast, bored looks on their face
As was Brian's when he denied and delayed at great pace
Endless growth, deposed, on behalf of us all
Luigi didn't do it, we were hiking in Nepal.

This should be an automatic forced recusal.
But it wont be, because the billionaires and CEOs are scared, and don't care about the appearance of propriety. They want Luigi sacrificed on an altar to instill fear and intimidation into those that might follow his example.
- Pretty sure Luigi's lawyer can (and will?) push for a different judge. I know the justice system in the US sucks but if you don't even give a chance to the rules it'll never be able to do anything right
  
  the CEOs control the DOJ.
  Only way hes getting a fair trial is if the jury is made up of people who have pointlessly lost loved ones not to disease, but to health insurance companies saying treating the disease was too costly and denying it.
  Which wont happen. They won;t let anyone that has anything even remotely negative about health insurance or millionaires become a juror

Could've known fair would not be on the table

Just leaving this link here for no particular reason:
https://youtu.be/uqH_Y1TupoQ

This motherfucker was chosen specifically because of his racist and homophobic bias. Endorsing him is endorsing his prejudices.
Go on, you pieces or shit. Defend this horrifying bastard. It just places you on the same disgusting level as him.
- She.
  
  Give them a break. They only saw the headline and the picture of a man before commenting.

"I swear, officer, that I didn't kill that judge. The fact that my search history indicates an interest in 3D printed guns, and I own the works of Karl Marx, AND I was wearing a free "Free Luigi" shirt doesn't prove anything."

So, her next?

that judge will be a biased pos. it is unavoidable with his relationships. this is the wrong judge if you want true justice.

I'm not so sure this would be considered a conflict of interest.
Don't get me wrong; it's egregious, but I don't know if it actually is a COI.
(Not a lawyer).

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- Meaning what, exactly?
  
  "Just lay down and let bad things happen forever, it's better to let a million people die than shoot a single villain."
- Yeah, clearly the problem are the suspects and not the system that has "justice" be dispensed by crooks.