Remember to Rage Against The Machine!

Rage 2022 in Cleveland.
- Which one of the 2 buildings was this in?
  
  RoMoFiHo

Why are all of their songs still relevant 30 years later?
- Because the problems they raged about are systemic, and the system didn't change.
  
  It did change, though. It got significantly worse.
- Because humans are fucking stupid and history always repeats itself.
  
  All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
  
  The problems are systemic and the humans in the system are incentivized to perpetuate the system.
  Its not stupidity.
- Because those that work forces are still the ones that burn crosses
- Because nobody actually listened to and took seriously what they were saying 30 years ago.
  Fun fact: After 9/11, various songs evoking 9/11, such as 'Learning to Fly' by Tom Petty, 'Stairway to Heaven' by Led Zeppelin, 'It's the End of the World as we Know it' by REM ... all banned from airing for about 120 days.
  Oh.
  And literally everything from Rage Against the Machine.
  Other fun fact about this?
  This censorship wasn't done by the FCC.
  It was done by ClearChannel, aka iHeartRadio, aka, the corporation that now owns or controls basically all terrestrial radio stations.
  https://www.kerrang.com/here-are-the-164-songs-that-were-banned-from-american-radio-after-9-11
  
  Warpigs is still banned by Clearchannel
- The same reason socialist theory is still relevant 150+ years after it started
- Because things have gotten worse in the intervening 30 years?
- Good example:
  Renegades Of Funk
  https://tidal.com/browse/track/23682737?u
  
  That one's a cover actually! It's even older :P
- I didn't know they were so WoKe!!

Drove all the way to NYC to see them with Run the Jewels after the pandemic. 100% worth it, one of the best shows I've ever been to.
Tim Commorford is weird to watch though. He kinda hops awkwardly from foot to foot.
- It's so disappointing to hear Killer Mike spit revolutionary lyrics like in 'close your eyes' only to find out IRL he's into lame shit like black capitalism.
  
  Yeah. The music still slaps though.
  RATM's bassist is into some weird fringe right-libertarian stuff too if I recall
  Nobody's perfect 🤷‍♂️
  
  only to find out IRL he’s into lame shit like black capitalism.
  Does it mean something other than what is here, or did I miss something offensive in skimming through the entry?
  This isn't one of those lame "now they are the machine" posts is it?
  
  Killer "pro-cop" Mike?
- I saw them in Cleveland on that tour. Zach had hurt his foot so he sat on the monitor speaker the whole time, but the rest of the guys made up for it.
  I paid a LOT of money to get good tickets, and it was 10000% worth it. I’d never seen rage live and figured I might not get to again, so spend the money. Also I’m an rtj fan.
  
  I was at the Chicago show where he hurt himself going pretty hard.
  Actually got it on video too
  https://youtu.be/clzrDjhqMVo
  After he sat down for the rest of the set he sounded amazing. Great show.
  
  Yeah, I think the Madison Square Garden show was one of the last ones they did, Zach was hobbled up good for it.
  Super worth it though, I was in the same boat. Show had been rescheduled 3 times but we committed lol
- We cannot accurately judge your dedication until you tell us from where you drove to NYC. New Jersey and Anchorage have very different weights here.
  
  Honolulu
- I wish they hadn't canceled the show here in Seattle. Zack broke his arm and since they are old, he wanted to take time to let it heal. I waited three years from the initial scheduled show for it to be canceled.

I preferred them when they weren't so political.
/S obviously haha. I'm currently cutting a stencil that says "Nazi lives don't matter" to make some shirts.
- lol

30 years later and more relevant than ever... That's not a good thing. Continue to rage.

Nazi lives matter a little. You can tally them up to keep score.
- That still only counts as one!
  
  That's why you take the ears to help count.
  
  Reply to when someone luigis musk

Save a life, punch a nazi

I'm going to my states senate office on Monday with a megaphone and will not leave until the police are called. I'm going to write out what I want to say because I'm too heated to speak freely. Naysayers need not reply.
- I’m going to my states senate office on Monday
  Monday is Presidents day, are you sure they'll be open? I know a couple state employees and they have the day off. This could vary by state and office I guess. I'm just saying maybe check the website or something.
  
  They were open! It wasn't just me there either. 🤘

Careful! This type of wording earned me my final ban from Reddit!
- according to your username, we have found an alt account of trump

- killing in the name of
  now you do what they told you
- By the time drag is old and feeble, drag will be surrounded by loved ones and not want to go out that way. Average happiness goes up with age.
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  This is how the good die young, isn't it

Fuck Nazis

Here's the introduction (aka "Pillar I") to the plan currently being implemented: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Some highlights:
From page 20 of the project: "Vought (officially in charge of OMB after being confirmed recently) writes that the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) should establish a “reputation as the keeper of ‘commander’s intent,’”"
From page 21: " In Chapter 1, former deputy chief of staff to the President Rick Dearborn writes that the White House Counsel “must take seriously the duty to protect the powers and privileges of the President from encroachments by Congress, the judiciary, and the administrative components of departments and agencies.”
Page 28: "When a new President takes office, he will need to decide expeditiously how to handle any major ongoing litigation or other pending legal matters that might present a challenge to his agenda"...", the President should hire a counsel with extensive experience with a wide range of complex legal subjects. Moreover, while a candidate with elite credentials might seem ideal, the best one will be above all loyal to the President"
Page 32, regarding the office of presidential personnel (DOGE): "Playing “bad cop” in a way that other White House offices cannot (including serving as the office that takes direct responsibility for firings and hirings)."

RATM supported Sendero Luminoso.
Fuck RATM.
wp:Shining Path

The Shining Path has been widely condemned for its excessive brutality, including violence deployed against peasants, trade union organizers, competing Marxist groups, elected officials and the general public.[2]
...
The Shining Path's retaliation to this was one of the worst attacks in the entire conflict, with a group of guerrilla members entering the town and going house by house, killing dozens of villagers, including babies, with guns, hatchets, and axes. This action has come to be known as the Lucanamarca massacre.[39] Additional massacres of civilians by the Shining Path would occur throughout the conflict.[26][40][41]
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American rock band Rage Against the Machine released a music video for their 1993 song "Bombtrack" as a response to the arrest of Abimael Guzman the previous year. The video expresses support for Guzman and the Shining Path, featuring various clips of the organization's activities, as well as showing the band in a cage to mimic Guzman's imprisonment.[145]

They need to release one new song, it would be appropriate. Don't let the fascists win.
- If you think the fault lies with the democrats, you haven't been paying attention to the machine they are raging about.
  
  Zzzzzzzz
  
  We get it. We live in a shitty, gerrymandered two party system thanks to FPTP and there is no true anti-war or anti-capitalist party. What's your point?
  Saying "both sides bad" without mentioning one side being much, much worse is just being disingenuous. Not just that, but it attracts people on the worse side, who then will not accept criticism of their own side. Look at Jimmy Dore for a perfect example of this kind of audience capture.
  In this example, you have Biden on one side, who was being complacent in a genocide while saying publicly that he wants a ceasefire deal, but not doing what was in his power to actually make it happen, like cutting off arms and funding to Israel. On the other side, you have Trump who wants to nuke Gaza and commit ethnic cleansing himself (I'm sorry, I meant to say "displace Palestinians") and rebuild it as a paradise in his image without Palestinians.
  Let's just say Netanyahu publicly wanted Trump to win this past election, and there's a good reason why.
  
  We're not talking about Palestine currently. Unless you're purposefully trying to derail the conversation in order to blunt opposition to ORAGNE and his South African chimp.
  Incidentally, what do you think of ORAGNE policy on Gaza?
  
  Fascism never wins permanently.

Mary Morello deserves some love as well. Tom has a show on sirius xm. I was introduced to Zeal & Ardor bc of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Morello

Arm the homeless

CLIP YOUR STRINGS YOU FUCKING PHILISTINE
- That's Tom Morello, he can have 5 feet of string hanging off the end for all I care

23 nazis disagree with this lol

As suggested listening following RATM, may I suggest American Idiot by Green Day. You may find similar themes in that album.
- Any other suggestions on how we can fight fascism by giving money to record companies?
  
  The band you are looking for is Fugazi. Totally pure in their resistance to destructive capitalism.
  
  Who said you have to buy anything? Are you new to the internet?

One Day As A Lion is a 2008 Zach de la Rocha side project that's definitely worth a listen if you haven't checked it out.

Love that slogan.

The band is great but sometimes it's sad to see how Morello sells his T-shirts on Instagram. Mostly they're boring shirts (not much effort for the pictures or texts) and selling them so eagerly seems like some pretty capitalist shit.
- You don't need the shirts to exist, but he needs money for food and shelter. Would you rather he book private shows for elites?
  
  It just seems pretty ironic that first he posts on Instagram (big corporate social media) stuff like fuck the system and on the next post he says that buy my T-shirts! Where are those shirt made? Probably on some cheap factory with bad working conditions. I also think that he gets pretty much money from the gigs etc. So he can manage without selling shirts. But yeah I agree that you have to make money to live in a system you are even if you oppose that system. Maybe there's more nuances than I see. But with a quick look it seems pretty ironic as I said.

Every life matters, and the reason we cannot make progress is because people who think they are 'good' are shunning and actively casting away people with less than desirable traits.
Nazis suck, racists suck, bigots suck, but they weren't born that way. Their lived experience led them to the place they are in. How do you get them out? Practice what you are preaching: compassion.
Edit: this comment here explains my point better than my own https://ponder.cat/comment/1872062
- No, you're missing an entire level here. Racists suck, bigots suck but Nazis? Nazis round up people and gas them to death and then stack the bodies in the dirt like cord wood. It's a different level.
- Every life matters
  You started from a faulty assumption. Nazi lives don't matter.
  
  Did Abimael Guzman's life matter?
- Have compassion for Trump guys. He's having a rough go of it lately.
  
  Nowhere in my comment was Trump mentioned. I don't like him either. The concept of hurt people hurt people still applies though
- Hahahaha! No! Not with neo-nazis. Look with racists and bigots I'll agree, try compassion first. I've done that and for most racists and bigots I've confronted it has worked. I didn't change them to be a champion of minorities but usually I can convince someone to behave nicer. Neo-nazis on the other hand are not just regular racists and bigots who say terrible things but don't actually do anything. Neo-nazis are the extreme and if they're an adult regardless of their life experience they know what they're saying is wrong. So no, I have no compassion and will never have compassion for an adult who is a neo-nazi. Period.
  
  I'm glad to see that the strategy of compassion has worked for you in some cases. It's a nuanced topic, but I firmly believe that if we want to be progressive & inclusive we need to adopt a mindset of 'no man left behind'.
  Again, it's nuanced and it takes a lot of effort. Perhaps I am oversimplifying things too much, on the other hand, I think that we will not be better off by casting out anyone.

Man, screw RATM. They’ve sold out. They did a bunch of anti-Biden crap because of the Palestine shit. Look what that got them.
They also arguably lost Florida for Al Gore which caused him to lose the election.
More like Rage For The Machine.
- What do you mean by Palestine shit? There is a genocide happening there right now, fuck Israel.
  
  And now Trump is going to turn Gaza into a resort lol
  And you know what he’d do to get that done…
  
  Honestly. The Israeli government took it farther than what happened to them. And they call it a genocide. Because they are projecting their insecurity they have for performing their own genocide on the GAZA People.
- They are likely against both parties.
- Dumb take.