Charlie Angus INCREDIBLE speech at Elbows Up T.O. Public Meeting

Man, Charlie Angus has really been the man of moment here. He's doing the same speech all over this country, seen it in a bunch of places. I know that sounds like a criticism - how can he be genuine when he's repeating himself and refining the message? Isn't that just a stump speech?

But it's not. First of all, anyone who knows Charlie Angus' record knows this isn't new territory for him.

Second, the reason this feels so genuine is because it's how WE feel. We aren't being told what to think, we're having our feelings put into words right in front of us.

And finally, these lines aren't stupid slogans or focus group tested pablum. These are things I've heard other Canadians say to each other, things I've said, way before any political leader was saying it. He's speaking in plain and easy language, in the exact terms Canadians think about this.

Populism and patriotism are heady, dangerous drugs. So quickly, they can pour over into mob-mentality, anti-intellectualism and nationalism. We have to be careful, and we have to be smart. But right now, man, I am riding this high. Elbows up!

I love Charlie Angus, I’m proud he’s from northern Ontario (I love Cobalt & the tri-towns)

Canada is lucky to have Mr. Angus in this time.

I saw him live at an earlier event. He’s a fantastic speaker. 🔥🔥🔥wish he was NDP leader. He’s the left populist Canada needs.

Very good/strong speech, but usual US programming infecting Canadian minds apply. The specific "democratic values" identity is actually problematic, but will address last.

I went to NATO meeting and all of our allies were silent when asked to support Canada.

Trump, in his antagonism of all allies, has successfully made them more divided with Russia and China. Especially Canada, even to Mexico. Cowering individually is surely a losing strategy for all, but increased divisiveness with Russia and China whether or not it is collective, is definitely a losing path. Internalizing US enemies as our own, is US mind control and US sycophancy. Divisiveness against US enemies is self destructive, and direct treasonous assistance to US pressure against us. We need closer relations with countries who do not cower to US. Europe approach/reaction is loser joke.

Trump wants Arctic to gift it to Putin

It is offensively stupid to believe that Trump/US empire doesn't want domination of Canada purely for US empire benefits. Going full Tropic Thunder on blaming Russia for it, leads to idiocy that war on Russia must be the solution, as if that wasn't US empire objective all along to make us a proxy. Russia does not need our Arctic resources, and if they do, they will pay us for access. They will not be invading Canada, ever.

Golden billion democracy, democratic values, is the ultimate value

Democracy in US is no protection from Oligarchy and Zionist supremacim. An additional factor in US allied democracies is US colonial control over those democracies. Our wonderful democracy doesn't prevent extreme divisiveness lately, and it is a direct result of unsustainability, and the oligarch forces that want profits a few extra years over sustainability. Collective stupidity, or acceptance that world/country/master ally is unsustainable, is a big factor, and I assure you that war on Russia and China is no solution.

Good/humanist national governance comes without our major divisive and evil flaws. Economic pluralism where affording a family is possible, where sustainability of education and healthcare can be hoped, Sexual and marriage freedom is pluralism too, and a notably appreciated Canadian freedom/value. Language and cultural freedom is pluralism, also a Canadian value. Canada's labelling of apartheid ethnostates who have suspended elections as "wonderful democracies" is simply political distortion of pluralism/humanist values. Gender/identity supremacism is not pluralism.

China and Russia have economic pluralism. Syria had some sexual pluralism. The freedom to be divisive, destructive, and treasonous representative of a colonial power should stop being considered a utopian value.

Eh, I see this guy around and hear his speeches now and then. I don't really find his speaking points all that convincing, and some are not quite the 'win' that gets depicted.

Like saying we all support DEI is nice and all, but he acts like he doesn't even know what it is or why there are a lot of guys (typically) who are pissed off about it. Like I'm an older millennial, who has memories of being explicitly denied employment with the government because I didn't "Identify as an equity employment group" -- which is defined as any non-male or non-caucasian person (so no cis white guys were allowed to get past round 1 of the application for the jobs I was applying for). I was also asked, and stupidly/naively agreed, to step aside for scholarships/bursaries so that women could win the awards and pad my highschools stats - something that meant I had to work all through university, while those awards went to 1%er women who were too busy vacationing in their summer homes to even bother going to the award ceremonies. Our government literally releases a report about hitting its DEI hiring and promotion quotas -- it's less about finding the best person for a position, and more about determining the minimum requirements, and then shortlisting people based on race. It's not a meritocracy once implemented, even though its proponents like to claim as such. And from a white guys perspective, seeing a bunch of women and minorities in power, who block you from getting a job / benefits because there are.... too many white guys who have privilege... ain't gonna leave a positive perspective on the thing. Like imagine if everyone you interacted with was a white guy, and when you tried to work with them, they said "Nah man, too many women / minorities work here, go somewhere else" -- that'd feel like blatant discrimination, but when the races are reversed its celebrated as DEI.

There're very real, historical issues that some of us have with these programs and the way they're implemented. Similar story for being 'woke', and how adherence to some 'woke' principles means denying science/evidence -- Canada implementing legislation that makes it criminal to discuss non-scientific/subjective-based things, like blind adherence to a narrative about history, is an easy example. Rich old white guys pretending like its not an issue, aren't speaking to the "young" (under 50) disenfranchised male voters who've been negatively impacted by it on a personal level. Charlie/the left acting like it's "Support DEI or else you don't support Canada!" is nonsense. Politicians / white guys like Charlie, who did well and avoided all the negative stuff about these sorts of programs, aren't great spokespeople -- let's see some guys who have lived through the negatives of DEI up there supporting it, guys who've lost job opportunities / career paths due to its implementation and their gender/race, doubt you'll find too many who'd cheer it on. Like bring out Erin Weir, the guy who Jagmeet Singh kicked outta the NDP due to an unfounded accusation of misconduct -- when investigated, the most they found was that he raised his voice when talking about the carbon tax, and that he stood a bit too close in the elevator sometimes. Get him to explain how his getting kicked out for BS reasons is actually "good" and "Canadian".

The liberals will likely win this round, but its more because of anti-american sentiment, than a sudden embracing of this sort of nonsense -- sorta like ford riding a patriotic wave back into office, despite his policies / history. If the left/progressives don't pay attention to these sorts of concerns, things'll just fester. Asking men to vote against their interests didn't work in the USA. Some areas in the states have realised this and are trying to do better -- NBC just had a piece highlighting whitmer and moore attempting to build more programs to support young men. Let's hope it doesn't take similar circumstances for the Canadian left to do better.