JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War
JD Vance says Europe should have done more to stop Iraq War – DW – 04/15/2025
US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US "vassals." He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.
The one you started, and spread fake bullshit about WMDs to get European countries on board?
That war?
Fuck off you pudgy little fake working-class beard eyeliner cunt.
Vance saying Europe should've done more to stop his nation from going to war has a high levels of rapist blaming victim for their acts energy.
I was young back then so my memory of the details as i've experienced them are somewhat blurred, but there definitely was opposition. And that was met with statements along the lines of "if you're not with us you're against us/part of the problem".
For a while a disturbing number of places in America were calling French fries "freedom fries" because France didn't want to invade Afghanistan with us. From my recollection, most of Europe was against it and the UK was the biggest backer of the invasion. I was in high school at the time so I could be wrong.
Close. French fries were renamed because France refused to join the Iraq war, stating they looked at the intelligence and didn’t see evidence of WMDs. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said that this was “Old Europe” talking and that the Eastern European countries were more willing to join the war.
We had a lot of anti war protests here in the UK, not that it made any difference.
There were mass demonstrations in the UK against the second Iraq war. Tony Blair's credibility as Prime Minister was completely destroyed by his slimy toadying to GW Bush.
I remember the US and UK being the only ones that really wanted the war and others being opposed or undecided. Isn't that when the name 'french frys' became a political thing?
The freedom fries, yes. I was living in Dubai at the time but it was a buzz all over the internet back then.
My god... saying 'i read this on the internet' and 'abuzz all over the internet' when talking about 22 and 23 years ago is making me feel old. I need my meds...
... the Iraq War that the US started? What the fuck is he talking about?
After victim-blaming comes bystander-blaming.
When they lost a 20 year long war in the wrong country they invaded. Bunch of clowns.
They are trying to paint all previous administrations as bad.
I remember the lead up. There was a lot of action against it. But the US was clamoring really fucking hard for the war since the neo-cons wanted to invade Iraq well before 9/11.
Fuck you, JD.
"Look what you made me do!" - Every domestic abuser ever
JD should have done more to self abort while he was still a fetus.
I second this
The Russia tactics again, I see. Do terrible war crime, blame others for not stopping you.
What a bunch of clowns.
So when the US starts a war with Canada and Denmark to avoid free elections in 2 years, Europe should step in and JD will make sure the US backs down?
OK.
Make sure he says thank you.
I wanna hear him beg
Well, he's about 20 years too late for such criticism, and if he had been around to say that, his party would have called him a terrorist sympathizer. He probably would be put on a "no-fly list. "
JD Vance can go fuck himself!
And the couch he rode in on.
*James Donald Bowman
Did he even say “thank you” to Europe for its support?
In a perfect world, right after his comments there should have been a hail of gunfire putting him down. You know, just to prove that europeans aren't vassal states.
Based JD Vance blaming everything on Europe instead of Mexicans.
Was watching a clip from "the Crown" about how when Tony Blair was elected, people were contemplating getting rid of the monarchy due to how popular he was. Now a "Blairite" is a slur in British politics due to it's connotation with the Iraq war debacle. Second biggest modern mistake just behind allowing the Brexit poll and just ahead of the Lib Dems propping up the Tory government.
says the guy who can't hold a trophy without breaking it
Agreed. Europe should have also done more to stop two world wars.
Maybe Trump should prosecute the war criminals responsible.
In the news: Trump prosecutes Bush
This has strong putana history vibes going.
US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US "vassals." He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.
fully agree, couldn't agree more. many died, for what?
I LOLd for real
He knows this is BS. I wonder what he's been up to say something he knows is farcical as smoke and mirror cover. The Republicans could be trying to pass an evil legislation, like allowing to fuck couches.
And now that the US is pulling out of a proxy war, the EU is insisting it continue, consequences of nuclear war be damned.
I know Americans suck badly at Geography. But this war and Russia is bordering the European Union directly as opposed to Iraq. So it's a completely different thing
And you’re both going to continue a fight the US started, leaving both the EU & Russia in a weakened state. Which if you look into the leaked communications from the US state dept, you’d see that was exactly the plan.
You’re being played.
This seems like an attempt to undermine NATO. The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.
By saying Europe had a choice and should have resisted, he lays the foundation for the US to not follow through on their NATO commitments.
Edit: The commenter below is right, the article 5 was used for Afghanistan, not Iraq. My whole argument is thus invalid
Yeah, we should have ended our ties to the US and our infrastructural dependency back then.
Back then was one of the few moments I was proud about a german politician, when Schröder said "No".
Too bad he's saying "Да" a lot now.
…what…?
Seriously: what the fuck? There was - at best - scant official support in Europe for the war, and public support was nearly nonexistent. The fuck is he on about.
Go home and fuck your loveseat, heterosectional.
A few European countries sent troops, but more importantly there was not a peep from Europe about, you know, not creating another refugee crisis in their backyard. He said oppose, not not support. Europe could've done more to oppose the Iraq war.
They could have idk, introduced sanctions at least. They could have stopped military cooperation and threatened to form their own alliance. It was a deeply unjustified, dare i say criminal war that needed a more forceful response than Europe was able to come up with. I have no great love for the couch fucker but he's correct here
I remember when Republicans renamed french fries to freedom fries because France opposed the Iraq War
Living in a french-speaking country it's hard to forget.
The reaction at the time was partly bemusement though. We don't call them "french" anyway, because they're from Belgium.
France opposed the Iraq war and said that the Americans were full of shit when they were claiming that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Of course the Republicans snowflakes did not enjoy that.
So, is he seriously telling other countries not to just blindly go along with whatever the US tells them to do, but instead to resist and stand up for themselves?
And Trump is ok with this messaging? Hmmm.
It’s online with divisive rhetoric meant to drive US isolationism
After the US is isolated, what's next?
So now he is saying dont fall in line and please retaliate to our bs?
So he does have a humiliation kink?
respectfully i hope jd vance suffers permanent 24/7 diarrhea from all orifices
but think of the couches.
lets go with constipation. Permanent. constipation.
Extreme constipation would have our beloved Couchhumper spewing shit — literally, this time. It would be such an improvement…
Still from all orifices though, right? That would finally shut him up
Respectfully.
With all due respect.
Constant runny eyeliner.
He's already spewing enough shit.
He already is, especially from the mouth.
His brain is freedom fried.
Oh yeah, that time the USA kept lying about weapons of mass destruction found there and Washington not liking being called out by almost everyone.
"I don't know why you keep going on about our current lies, you assholes should have kept called us out for our past lies. But only now, not back then when we were lying with those lies. What I mean is.... ok: see we lied in the past, but you definitely were jerks for not believing those then. Now; I know we renamed French fries to freedom fries in a frothing defense of our "good lies" back then, and I know back then we insisted it was the truth, but now they were bad lies and HAVE YOU EVEN THANKED ME YET FOR TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS!?"
Why didn't you stop me from hurting those people? This is all your fault!
Fucking eyelined moron
"It hurt me to harm those people"
Shady Vance is now being told to do revisionist history. I'm excited to hear what he's told to say next.
Easily the most underrated moment of the election was when the sofa-king Shady Vance said that the US has the "cleanest energy economy in the world." On stage! On television!
That's not even revisionist, it's just straight double think. Decades of holding the nation back in an outdated dirty energy economy, from Reagan ripping solar panels off the white house roof to Trump ripping EV chargers out of federal parking lots.
Decades of fighting any and all clean energy initiatives and they just... pretend it never happened. Gaslit the country into thinking that we already accomplished all of the progress that they personally prevented. The progress that we still desperately need to this day.
It's just called lying.
What exactly could Europe have done to stop the Bush administration from invading Iraq on the completely unfounded pretense that Saddam Hussein had WMD's?
Bake a cake with 'Please don't!' Written on it?
But it's a useful reminder from the couch fucker. Should Trump call for aid when attempting to overthrow Canada/Greenland/Panama/Iran the Europeans better say 'No'. I bet that's totally not gonna let Republicans lose their shit and cry, bitch and moan like there's no tomorrow.
What exactly could Europe have done to stop the Bush administration from invading Iraq on the completely unfounded pretense that Saddam Hussein had WMD's?
Threaten to stop buying US weapons? Dump US bonds? Impose sanctions? At the very least not send troops? Europe wasn't vassalized enough by America that they couldn't do anything but watch as America created the refugee crisis of the century in their backyard (which, I should say, is still blowing up in their faces).
Well, with the second Gulf War, the least they could have done was opted out like the French instead of doubling down with the lies like Tony Blair did.
But, as is so often the case with the fascists, Vance's position is meant to create confusion and uncertainty, not to clarify.
Don't go with?
Not to mention other bush fucking armed and propped them up before it getting out of control because even then we couldn't mind our fucking business.
Why the fuck is VP Bowman ranting about the war his ol' bush started? Is he trying to fuck the memory of what happened, like the couch no one wants to use in the oval office?
Are they going to rename the freedom fries to vassal fries now?
The cognitive dissonance of this guy is unbelievable.
To be fair to the EU, republicans could have done more before it even arrived at the feet of the EU
“Krasnov pawn works harder to destabilize the west”
Maybe they can do more against the next war your pal the Orange turd is in the process of starting.
The world war's been going on for years. He's just ramping up support for Putin.
"The Iraq war"
Is like saying
"The world war"
Which one?
They mean the one where President Bush and his administration used propaganda to create support for an invasion that caused death, destruction and massive gains for the military industry.
Fuck him, but yes.
so russia says they want to feel Taurus? huh.
He’s a huge piece of shit but he’s right
