Hideo Kojima says most Death Stranding playtesters told him 'it was a terrible game,' and he's a little bummed Death Stranding 2 is testing way better

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"I'm not interested in appealing to the mass market, or selling millions of copies."

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hes actually interested in making interesting mechanics and locking behind patents for some fucken reason !!!!

Hideo Kojima behaves like every hexbear would were they in the same position.
- "Heh, you are unable to understand the depth of this piece of work, everyone who disagrees is illiterate :smuglord: "
  
  And potentially amerikkkan
- My feelings are hurt that you would make such a correct statement.
- Not me tho, i'm more a Suda51 kinda guy (i'm a dumbass).
- I would only make games about communism and remakes of all my favorite Sega Saturn games (Mystaria would be the first one)

This fucking guy.
I don't really think kojima is at risk of making "something that's for everyone", Death stranding was super self-indulgent
- It was one of the most pretentious games I've ever played and it was fucking immaculate
  
  It was and the beach scene at the end with the intermittent walking and the plot exposition is the worst thing kojima has ever made, can't wait to see what he does for 2

This game being "death stranding but with more stuff" is like the lamest thing he could have done. The original already had too much stuff, if anything they should have reduced it more instead of bombarding people with unlockables and "number go up" at every moment. Cookie-clicker ass game

my brother in christ you made the market you're appealing to

They were right.
Kojima should just direct a shitty movie where he gets to hang out with actors and tell them to do weird shit. That's what he actually wants.
- It won't happen because whatever movie he made would suck. He's currently carried by the much lower standards for writing in video games. He's just a Japanese David Cage with less shitty views.
  
  You're not wrong perhaps fundamentally as yes MGS itself got some very messy writing, retcons and shit, but I also feel like "movie standards" seems like a strawmen at this point after about 15 years of capeshit, disney shit, sequels and reboots most of which are still extremely profitable and somewhat successful have just lowered those standards significantly.
  People like Nolan have achieved legendary success with barely above average quality overall so I'd put him a possibly like a Nolan tier below at the start, definitely above with experience. If the average person can say the love Nolan shit then Kojima would be more than fine. Standards are just as much about what the audience is willing to call good or bad.
  Sure I'd agree the best movies in history are on a completely different level of what he could possibly achieve, this is undeniable but you don't need to reach that level.
  
  Removed by mod
- Why wouldn't Hollywood let him? The man's a legend with legions of loyalists. One would think it's a safe bet.
  or direct a gay p0rn.
  
  Because day one on set he'd have them build a massive rig to facilitate the greatest upskirt photography in cinematic history
  
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- No he should continue making weird unique video game experiences to enrich the cultural tapestry of humanity

Playtesters legitimately had no idea what they were talking about then because it was great. The only thing I really have to say about it is that repetition was slightly annoying and it obviously had significantly less polish than Metal Gear does. I was frequently annoyed by the clunky movement in the combat missions especially the VR time trials. Hopefully improving on clunkyness is a focus of the second.
Do not listen to focus groups or "playtesters" when producing art. You get grey goo from them. They do not know or understand creating something that does not exist and their takes on something they're entirely unfamiliar with will be all over the place.
- It should have been more of a walking simulator there was too much combat
  
  Maybe, the clunk in combat was the biggest issue the whole game had. That clunk could have been hidden. With that said they're clearly going for a Metal Gear style gameplay thing. Problem is that the last game Kojima made the movement was polished to perfection even if the game itself was unfinished.

Honestly? Good for him.

Death Stranding is a game that grows on you real slowly. If the second is anything like the first, then that's the difference right there.
- The likely explanation is that the playtesters are now used to Death Stranding mechanics since Death Stranding already exists. I remember there being a lot of people who thought Demons Souls and Dark Souls 1 were bad because they weren't used to the mechanics, and now Elden Ring has sold over 30 million copies to almost universal acclaim.
  
  Me and my friend taking 5-6 hours playing dark souls 1 and never even making it to the second bonfire, thinking the game takes place entirely within that first castle area, lmaoooo

Makes mass market product
Gets upset that it's a mass market product
- patents anything that was even vaguely interesting

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