Journalists hit as Israel fired at Lebanon were clearly marked as press, CNN analysis shows
Journalists hit as Israel fired at Lebanon were clearly marked as press, CNN analysis shows
Do you remember that time Israel blew up a building that had housed various press institutions, including the AP who had used the building for 15 years? And then claimed they had no idea the press used that building? And then said "well, we had evidence HAMAS was using electronic warfare to jam the
missiles we use to attack PalestineIron Dome defense system in that building, but you can't see it, but you can trust us, we showed America"? And then the US said "uh, no you didn't"?Pepperidge Farms remembers.
As I started to read I kept thinking didn't these idiots also shoot at the press the previous years of land grabbing. Now they did this.
Very fuckin suspicious Israel. Really fuckin sus.
This is the second time in this conflict. Journalists were killed in North Gaza a few days ago
Oh great. Not sus at all.
Media after media I see this same echoed sentiment and emphasis on emotional imagery from the attacks in Israel, which while absolutely devastating, was not done in isolation. I have yet to see anyone among my normal news circles raise the fact that there have been 10x the civilian Palestinian deaths in recent decades as there has been Israeli.
Are peoples' brains that short-sighted they can't comprehend this or what...? Or is it just that these journalists are so fearful of being witch-hunted for contrarian thoughts?
Its manufacturing consent .
The US state department picked a side in this conflict over 3 decades ago. The state-run media like PBS and NPR pick up the propaganda lines naturally. The national media such as NYT and NBC value their state dept contacts and armed forces advertisement dollars more than they value journalistic integrity.
After 30 years of the manufacturing consent feedback loop, here in the US we end up with a national media ecosystem that is more sycophantic to Israel than even the Israeli media. Haaretz features dissenting opinions that you can't find in national US media.
This metaphorical frog started boiling decades ago, finally most of the water is boiling off and it's really starting to stink.
I'm familiar with the notion of Manufactured Consent and to be clear I agree with much of what you say. Though I think it should be noted that neither NPR nor PBS are state-run. At least, nowhere near comparable to something like RT or even BBC or Al Jazeera.
A majority if their support comes from viewers. However, that being said, some of the larger donors and sponsors to both of these news outlets originate from a specific ethnicity, which I believe may put the reporters and columnists in a bind.
Ultimately it's risky business to go against the pro-Israeli sympathetic sentiment right now. Journalists risk being shunned or worse, accused of being antisemitic or sympathetic to terrorists.
People keep stating statistics like they indicate some sort of obvious bias or preferential treatment for one side or the other. More Palestinians have been murdered by Israel than Israelis by Palestine because the Israeli government actually tries to protect their own citizens, hamas literally uses Palestinians as human shields and stokes aggression and resentment to further the conflict. Both sides fricking suck but you can't just say a surface level observationa nd present it like it gives some moral superiority to one side or the others.
Do you have any data that shows those deaths of Palestinians in recent decades were a result of unprovoked attacks by Israel?
Do you think Palestinians can achieve anything good for themselves by starting violence?
At a certain point it is no longer about "who hit first" but about "who hit last".
The biggest issue is the attacks are not proportional. Just like 9/11 what happened in Israel to flare this up again is but a drop in a bucket of years of lived experience of those in Gaza. It doesn't justify any of it but it does provide important context.
And fuck Hamas.
Depends. How far do you want to go back? The aborigines of Palestine were Arabs. But throughout the 20th century we saw provocation as land was continuously annexed for Israel to the detriment of the local Muslim populations.
In recent decades, does it matter? If Israel is pretending to play the high ground here, why is everyone feigning complete ignorance to massive civilian collateral damage when they as a non-terrorist state SHOULD be held to a higher standard?
To that end, do you really think their bombing civilians isn't going to radicalize the surviving family members...?
As for Hamas' goals, I have no idea. But then again, the world is talking about them. Like any toddler for lack of words on the world stage, throwing a tantrum is the only way to get attention.
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IDF loves to murder journalists
*IDF loves to murder.
So they're attacking Lebanon and international press now. Are the western governments still going to support them?
They've been killing journalists for years. Just last year, the IDF shot and killed an American journalist for Al-Jazeera
Of course they are. Fucking cowards. Imagine if Hamas had done this
I know Israel is some kind of diplomatic darling but killing Innocents and moving into their homes makes it hard to take their side. Killing in retribution usually is hard to align with.
Honestly I'm at the point where we should evac all civilians and just nuke the area and NO ONE can have the fucking land.
Calm down, Yahweh.
This is my view on Jerusalem. Abrahamic religions can get fucked. If you three can't share your toys they should be taken away.
Edit: okay, not my actual view as in if I had the power, but like my nuclear option.
Holy shit this is titled so poorly. I honestly thought it was because a lemming retitled it, but, no, CNN just sucks at writing.
I want to believe that Israel didn't target a group of journalists. There's a hell of a lot to give doubt to that theory, though.
Well, the IDF forces pulled BBC reporters out of their van clearly marked press and physically assaulted them. Source
In this situation, the man killed had uploaded a photo of himself, which was geotagged, onto social media just before Isreal fired on their location (again, clearly marked press).
With all of the other crimes against humanity committed by the IDF, I'm certainly suspicious that these may be intentional attacks on press. Not going to jump to any conclusions yet.
And before biased crazy assholes decend into this thread and jump to conclusions about me, I don't support Hamas or Isreal here; just the victimized innocent civilians on both sides.
Well, the IDF forces pulled BBC reporters out of their van clearly marked press and physically assaulted them.
Same shit, different day.
From the U.N. Human Rights Commission, 2019:
The Commission found that Israeli Security Forces killed 183 of these protesters with live ammunition. Thirty-five of these fatalities were children, while three were clearly marked paramedics, and two were clearly marked journalists.
In this situation, the man killed had uploaded a photo of himself, which was geotagged, onto social media just before Isreal fired on their location (again, clearly marked press).
Yeah there were a couple bits mentioned about geotagging in there. It reads like the CNN author really wanted to say that it most likely was targeted, but doesn't have enough proof and has too much journalistic integrity to say it outright.
And before biased crazy assholes decend into this thread and jump to conclusions about me, I don’t support Hamas or Isreal here; just the victimized innocent civilians on both sides.
Don't think you really have to worry about that now, lemmy.world is defederated from lemmygrad.ml. Although frankly it's the hexbear users who have been the worst recently.
Remember Shireen? That wasn't an accident.