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Trump says Putin ‘has gone absolutely crazy’ after major Russian attack on Ukraine

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Trump says Putin ‘has gone absolutely crazy’ after major Russian attacks on Ukraine

www.cnn.com /2025/05/25/politics/trump-putin-ukraine-airstrikes

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I’ve always had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia
No, you haven't.
- No, I can believe he does, in the same way that I've had good relationships with some of my bosses....
  
  You sucked off some of your bosses?
- This is just trump for “I’m too stupid to realize that Putin has been using me, getting massive value for empty promises and cheap flattery.”

This has been building for a while. We've seen Trump slowly start to criticise Putin more and more. And the reason is simple; Putin is making him look bad.
Ending the war in Ukraine was a key promise of Trump's campaign. He cast the Dems as ignorant bloodthirsty warmongers who only knew how to shovel money into the death machine, while he was the savvy deal maker who would end the war in a day.
One of Trump's biggest problems is that he buys his own hype. I think he really did believe that Ukraine was only an ongoing issue because no one had really tried to sit down and hash out a deal with Russia. And of course, with his cozy relationship with Putin, he was just the guy to do it.
But there is no deal to be made. The things Ukraine wants and the things Russia wants are fundamentally incompatible. There's no middle ground between "I want to exist" and "I want for you not to exist." And Putin's claims of wanting to come to the table have only ever been a smoke screen.
So now Trump looks like a fucking moron because the "easy" deal he claimed he'd get isn't happening, and Putin keeps on thumbing his nose at the US by flagrantly violating every agreement he makes.
For Putin, pissing off Trump doesn't matter. He's already got what he needs out of him. Trump was only ever a Russian asset in the sense that they knew that getting him into power would accelerate the USA's decline. They're not calling up and sending him orders every day. They don't need to. As another commenter here brilliantly put it, "Trump is a fire-and-forget idiot."
But there's at least some hope that this break with Putin might see him turn to supporting Ukraine purely out of spite. He's done pettier things for less reason.
- Especially since funneling arms to Ukraine is good for the (capitalist) economy that he desperately needs to bolster.

Maybe if Trump is this openly disobedient Putin will solve this problem for us, and put some polonium in his Ensure
- I hear it clumps less in Metamucil.

He is needlessly killing a lot of people, and I’m not just talking about soldiers. Missiles and drones are being shot into Cities in Ukraine, for no reason whatsoever
That White House Starlink connection must have a huge ping, like at least 3, but more like 11 years.
- To him that was all Biden's fault though.

It'll be a real shame if the pee tape were to surface in this political climate. A reeeall shame. Just saying.
- I'm curious... at this point do you think a Trump pee tape would make any difference? Fox news would do a segment called "Who hasn't experimented in life?" and he would dismiss it as "Locker room hijinks" or something. He could put puppies in a blender on live tv at this point and everyone would have his back.
  
  Won't even go that far, anything released will just be called fake news and deep fakes.
- The pee tape doesn't exist. It has much more value to Russia as an unsubstantiated rumor that makes Trump double down on his paranoia.
  But even if it did, it wouldn't make a difference to his supporters. They would start peeing on their own beds (and sleeping in them after!) in solidarity....
  
  They would ~~start~~ continuing peeing on their own beds
- It wouldn’t matter one bit.
  You would have every right wing media outlet either calling it fake or saying that it has always been everyone’s peak sexual fantasy to do piss play and the wokies are just jealous that Donnie two scopes is getting some.
  We are well past the point where there’s some big scandal that’s going to drop and save us. These fucking people sit in the Oval Office and say “we just aren’t following the Supreme Court anymore, fuck it, we have concentration camps now and we can send anyone we want to them”
  The scandals are out in the open, they are shouted proudly by the worst people you can imagine and the cult eats it up.
- Subsequent leaks (pun not intended) suggest it's p for pedo not p for urine.
  His long history with Epstein and other actions support this.
  Doesn't really matter either way, his cult members would support him if he disembowelled a child on live TV, let alone anything where the victim survived.
  
  Still wouldn't affect his support.

I give it a week max (possibly even tomorrow) for Trump to start praising Putin again and call Zelenski disrespectful again. Putin will lecture him.
- Another article I just saw has Putin calling Trump "emotionally overstrained" for his recent comments critical of Putin.
- Here’s someone who’s been paying attention