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Iran issues fatwa against Donald Trump: "Enemy of God"

www.newsweek.com

A senior cleric in Iran has issued a fatwa declaring that anyone who threatens Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is "an enemy of God," state media has reported.

Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi was responding to a question about any threats made by U.S. President Donald Trump and the leaders of Israel, including prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

A fatwa is a ruling on how to interpret Islamic law issued by a clerical authority.

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Got too many 'leaders' in this globe with a Jesus Christ/God Complex. That's what is wrong with this world.
- That and an extreme lack of empathy, which is confusing
  
  Most organized religions don't cultivate empathy, especially the ones considered Abrahamic. It probably inhibits it.
  It's all about their gods saying "do these things and you won't suffer at my hands." Followers don't get to think about whether something is correct or the right thing to do. They're too busy thinking about if it's going to count as a sin.
  Having lived in Utah for way too long, I have seen this among the Mor[m]ons. They'll do "good works" but it's very impersonal most of the time.
  It's about grinding the maximum blessings with the least amount of effort. That doesn't lend itself to empathy.
  Especially with the whole temple thing. Spend a couple of hours cosplaying as an avatar for a dead person and still get all the blessings as if you helped a living person in a tight spot.
- A Jesus Christ complex would be refreshing. A leader who would deny earthly pleasures, command their followers to love thy neighbor, feed the hungry, uplift the sick and poor, give long sermons about mercy and forgiving your enemies, and would be seen personally breaking bread with the unhoused and lawyers alike?
  That'd freak everybody out for sure.
  
  Don't forget the flipping tables, beating bankers and money-lenders, and saying that rich people don't go to Heaven.
- "I inherited a lot of power and connections from my parents, I must be a god"
- "Jesus complex" is being an imperialistic or violent and abusive pillaging freak? 😭🙃
  The Sermon on the Mount is like 4 pages long, come on...
- Thank you for this take.
  The problem isn’t religion.
  The problem is PEOPLE
  
  Thank you for being the voice of reason. I keep telling peole that without religion people would wage war about what the best color is. If you want to be a dick you'll always find a reason
- All these guys are a threat to humanity.
He's not wrong
- So he’s the enemy of god? But maga says he’s the second coming of Jesus and doing the lords work? Same Old Testament thinking too
  
  They'll convenientlyskip over every part in scripture that demands morality and self-restraint, and holds them accountable to their actions. Oh, and literally all of Jesus' teachings, lol. Merciless "Christians" are a little bit like "dry water".
  
  Revelations 13: 16-17
  And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Babe wake up, abrahamic religion is fighting again.
- Oh like trump is relgious
  
  He’s not, but the fundamentalist Christians have decided he’s their hero.
  
  Would it be better if he was, though?
Religion is about control
- Yup, and always has been. Came to this conclusion when I was young and I cannot see it any other way.
  
  Jesus said very specifically to feed, clothe, and house people in need, and that even letting the poor live on your property and eat your food isn't enough to keep you out of hell if you don't actually keep them safe and fed enough. He REALLY insisted, he talked about prisoners rights repeatedly. I've never heard of a single church trying to improve prisoners lives. Not one. Someone did the math and discovered that if every building used for religious worship sponsored two people. Housed two homeless people, there would be no homelessness. That's it. Two people. Now assuming just Christian churches would make those numbers harder, let's go ahead and double that number even though that's impossible because the majority of places of worship are Christian in the US by a lot more than 50%, but let's just pretend it's 4 people a Christian church. That's VERY LITTLE EFFORT that would end all homelessness in America.
  Try and build a halfway house anywhere in the US and what happens? Thousands of people suddenly are motivated to show up to town hall meetings and sign petitions!
Yeah, no shit. I'm with Iran on this one.
Donald Trump: "Enemy of God"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20g1zvgj4do
'Anointed by God': The Christians who see Trump as their saviour
This timeline.
It's weird when two horrible entities in the world hate each other. Is it popcorn time?
- Only in the sense that all our heads will start to pop like popcorn when the nukes start flying.
  
  Iran doesn't have nukes and their strategy is quite defensive, rather than aggressive. If there is Nukes flying Israel would toss them first and the US would follow in, because they can't be not throwing bigger bombs than Israel.
Trump: Putting the "fat" in "fatwa" since 1946.
- putting the “fat” in “fatwa”
  Just how long have you been waiting to use this one?
- Iran should have a national twitter for these kinds of burns
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
- First Larry David, now Trump!
Hey. If it happens you won't hear me complain.
He needs to go. The who how and why doesn't matter so long as he's gone. That's a win for the entire human race.
- I was gonna say that it would only be unfortunate due to giving them a reason to attack Iran, but history has shown us that doesn't matter. We'll do that regardless. If we dont have a reason we've been happy to just make one up.
  At this point its really just a matter of not wanting to actually fight America on the battlefield.
- Has he created a movement, or has there been a movement that has attracted him? As I see it, it's not just him it's most of the current GOP leadership, Thiel and the Heritage foundation, Citizens United and a few adjacent organizations that need to go before you can go to a somewhat reasonable functioning society in the US. And frankly the way some Democrats react to the New York primary, they also seriously need to clean house.
  
  Happiness is small moments. Little dots of hope in a sea of despair and misery.
  You go to work. Autopilot through the day. Then at lunch or on break you get that sandwich you really love from a nearby shop or your favorite spot. You have that momentary respite before returning to whatever drudgery you're forced to endure to live in this hole. Now expand that to cover everything all the time. Might be a sandwich. Might be a new episode of your favorite show. A hug from your partner or child.
  Tiny moments of joy.
  Doe 174 dying is a tiny moment of joy that a whole lot of people will get a whole lot of joy from. So yeah. It'll be worth it. And I'll applaud it no matter how it happens.
- The problem is the movement he has created. The same is true of many other politicians in other countries.
  
  Is it a movement or is it a trump cult?
- It matters. He must not be allowed to go quickly or peacefully. He must be tortured live on the internet until it takes him. I won’t be happy with anything less. After all, it’s the cruelty that matters.
I don’t necessarily vibe with the processes to reach the declaration nor do I reflexively support the orator, but I can’t say I disagree
Oh please. And what are you gonna do about it? Dare you. Double dog dare you!
I mean, really lol go ahead
Well, Trump is an insult to anyone with more than one functioning brain cell
He is the enemy of literally everyone, so, I guess God is also on that list 😂
Here's a comprehensive list why killing the orange Shitgibbon is a bad idea:
- Let's just hope that if anything ever happens, the event takes large parts of the succession line with it.
- Who would have thought that Iran might save the USA 🙄
  
  It won't. There's too many other assets implanted. Vance is no better and he at least knows when to shut the fuck up.
  
  sure as hell wasnt on my bingo card.
- Making him a martyr would be a bad consequence.
  Once again failing to hold a president accountable for crimes against the country only keeps that avenue wide open for the future.
  There's two
oh look. a nothing-falafel
- Ask Salman Rushdie about that.
  
  It took 40 years
  
  not that I wouldn't love this win for religious fundamentalist posturing, it's not going to play out like that for Fruity Tootsie the Orange Teletubby. he's not the same.
It's unclear how Khamenei will navigate the crisis his regime faces but as his credibility collapses
Propaganda. How is his credibility collapsing?
- Without checking the context, Iran and their proxies got hit a bunch and turned the other cheek, so in the game theoretic sense, yes, none of their threats will be credible now.
  The conventional smart move would have been to start gradually blowing Isreali and American stuff up the moment Hazbollah was attacked. It sounds they might actually have some kind of twisted, theocratic idealism that got in the way of that.
  
  Wtf are you talking about? There were USA reporters in bomb shelters and Israelis making "oh, we're so persecuted because we're Jewish," tiktok videos as Iran bombed the shit out of Israel.
  They didn't turn the other cheek. Propaganda has you.
More like enemy of men, both of youse
- Given the backdoors in modern CPUs and routers, that's not something you want in writing on the interweebs. Say, do you know what approaching re-education drones sound like?
  edit
  pfffffff ha ha ha and he deletes his post! Guess he heard an airplane and thought it was the Raytheon GBU-12 Camp Camp refugee tent buster bomb being sent his way!
  
  Authoritarianism thrives when citizens self-police their speech.
Feels like deja vu to when Bin Laden issues a jihad against the US, but this time it is much more personal - Trump got called out.
Oh he's an enemy to far more than just some imaginary friend.
As much as I'd like to see this sadistic shitbag removed from society anyway possible, it would be preferable to see him in jail or let the Big Macs take care of him. If an assassination is tied to Iran, that can't be good for anyone.
- They should just have Trump's dumbass UCW event end with a fight between Trump and the Ali Khamenei. Both are demented authoritarian old fools, and it would be funny to have these "tough guys" in a ring barely able to stand up before a punch is even thrown.
  But they're both cowards that make others do violence for them so that'll never happen.
  
  When two tribes go to war.
- ...and Diet Coke, the bastard has to drink something.
This will be fun to watch over the next few years.
- Nothing is gonna happen. “Terrorists” like killing kids, not actual difficult targets.
  
  Figure it took them 30 years just to take Salman Rushdie’s eye.
He got fatwa'd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGZEnnLi3U
I didn’t disparage, there was no disparage!
During the WW II the Allies did not consider assassinating Hitler, because they knew who was fucking everything up. The lunatic cleric should realize Mango Mussolini is weakening the USA.
- You're assuming Iran has competent leadership.
Kind of a Pot meet Kettle deal
- Oh interesting. Tell us about your time in Iran.
  
  Don't need to international news supplies all the info I've needed for the last 40+ years.
Great Kreator song
Is this the Muslim equivalent of calling someone the Antichrist?
Anyone else planning on dining out in an Iranian restaurant tonight?
he works for the devil into bringing people into his fold, so yes he as an enemy of humans, angels and god.
And if you happen to wander into a right-wing maga conversation you hear that Trump has ended was with Iran and he should get a Nobel peace prize for it. I wonder what talking point is right.
/S
Finally.
It's unclear how Khamenei will navigate the crisis his regime faces but as his credibility collapses
Propaganda. How is his credibility collapsing?
Beheading is too good for him.
Now we are talking! Get em!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMGZEnnLi3U
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Same.
I guess I'm gonna need one if that's all it takes. Fuck your god.
- Nobody give a F about you. What a ridiculous comment
  
  True
  
  Yes, and just like me, no one gives a fuck about you either. Feel better?
Well that's... bold.
You're just a cleric dude. I'm sure Trump would have taken out Khameni if it wouldn't have turned the entire region into a conflagration.
edit: lol, if I had the entire power and might of the US military and some motherfucker puts out a hit on me? That dude is dead. Dead before the weekend is up. I'm sure Salman Rushdie could have used that sort of power but now he's missing an eye because of those insane motherfuckers.
- Killing Khamenei would be a terrible mistake. One of his son who probably would be his successor is even more extreme and would remove the fatwa Khamenei used to prohibit the building and using of nukes
  
  The one thing Trump's decision told the world was every country should be building nukes as fast as possible and keep quiet about it.

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