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Huawei a private Chinese company that can't be manipulated is banned. TP-Link, a Chinese company that can't be manipulated is moving towards being banned. Starting to see a pattern here?

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Huawei a private Chinese company that can't be manipulated is banned. TP-Link, a Chinese company that can't be manipulated is moving towards being banned. Starting to see a pattern here?

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Huawei and TP-Link also make much better products than most American brands
- more than a decade ago i had the perception they were cheap chinese crap, but using it made them my goto for simple routers and home networking equipment. they make simply solid routers.
There's two types of responses in this thread. People who assume 'manipulated' means 'pushed around by a foreign (the US) government'. And people who assume 'manipulated' means 'complying with locals laws (that of China)'. I don't know wether the latter is a knee jerk response in favor of corporate sovereignty, or if it is about US extraterritoriality. After all, whenever we order Twitter to comply with Brazilian laws, the US government cites its own constitution or whatever to censor us.
- It depends on your threat model, but it seems most people in the lemmyverse live in some nato-aligned (or at least not aligned with the PRC) country, so if you are concerned about surveillance from your domestic state it would be safer to use Chinese technology. Sure, the PRC government might also be spying on you but what are they gonna do with that data? You don't live there lol. Unless you're working for the FBI or something, but in that case I hope the PRC spies on you a lot.
I'm loving the Xiaomi Mesh wifi I bought as a gift to my parents. Zero issues. Idk about how secure they are but I trust them more than ISP stuff (even if those used to be Huawei anyway)
"Real-vulns" christ on a cracker the human species is fucking broken you don't have to make cringe new slang for everything
- Counterpoint: Fuck the english language.
- "Real-vulns"
  just rolns of the tounge that one. rural juror tier
Stanning huawei: sure, I don’t know much about that equipment, it could be generally good.
Stanning tp-link:
- The last time I used a TP-link switch I needed to keep replacing it every 3 weeks because it keept breaking. Those things cannot take a beating.
  
  I had a TP-Link wifi router that was fucking amazing for my gigabit fiber connection.. never had a single problem in several years of running it and it cost all of $40
"can't be manipulated" is a stretch. The chairman/CEO and CFO both have party membership and the company is primarily held by a union, although it is unclear if the union holds the majority of class-b shares. There is party influence in Huawei through the executive and possibly the ownership despite them technically being private. The party has limited control over Huawei, but control nonetheless.
- manipulated by america I think is the thing
  
  Pretty obviously imo lol
  
  that is what I meant
- The party has limited control over Huawei, but control nonetheless.
  I'd imagine that with such a large strategically important company they have more than limited control of it, which is cool and good and how it should be.
  
  Party control is there but isn't always strong enough, even with party members, such as in the case of the Alibaba Group and Jack Ma.
I might crash out if TP-Link is banned ngl.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
yewtu.be
inv.nadeko.net
yt.artemislena.eu
piped.video
Objectively incorrect.
A number of Chinese laws state that Chinese individuals and organisations must, if asked, co-operate with intelligence work.
- Notably, China is the only country in the world where you’re legally required to comply with government requests
- Note: this is true of companies based in the US
- Name a country wherein this is not true. Also the intention of the post title is clear: Free from US influence.
- Look up edward snowden
- Objectively incorrect.
  I do it voluntarily.
- Nice of the Chinese government to ask, the US government certainly wouldn't
- objectively the dumbest comment in this thread

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