Poll says three in four want Trudeau to go, but Trudeau insists he’ll stay
Poll says three in four want Trudeau to go, but Trudeau insists he’ll stay
The Conservatives have a 16-point lead. Three-quarters of the country think it's time for a change. But Justin Trudeau is vowing to fight Pierre Poilievre in the next election.
The Conservatives have a 16-point lead. Three-quarters of the country think it's time for a change. But Justin Trudeau is vowing to fight Pierre Poilievre in the next election.
Why do they want him to go? Because if they are unhappy with their daily situation, it's more likely that their Conservative provincial leaders are the ones making their lives miserable.
People are always unhappy with their daily situation. They've now figured out that Trudeau can't magically fix everything that's wrong with Canada. Of course, Poilievre not only can't fix it but will make it worse, but there are a large number of people who are too dumb to figure that out until their noses have been rubbed in it for a while.
The housing situation goes back decades and was the responsibility of Liberal and Conservative governments at the federal and provincial levels. Municipalities also deserve a fair share of the blame.
I'd love to pin this on one bogeyman, but politicians of all stripes benefitted from housing austerity. As did a lot of homeowners and voters.
Good grief. Everyone talks like Trudeau is lacking, and he might be, but has anyone considered that it’s a MINORITY government right now. You can’t just “ram shit through”, you have to work with others and play nice.
I fucking LOVE this situation right now.
A. It’s not the right-wing wackos in charge - don’t get me started. B. Trudeau has resources and experienced support, old favours, blah blah C. But Trudeau is held in check by, mostly, by the NDP(who I view as the political ’conscience’ of Canada). D. NDP are the real kingmakers - anything doesn’t pass muster? Nope! E. This forces EVERYONE to play and work together.
Isn’t that what this country is about?
Or is it about, “MY turn to drive!”? There’s no absolute power, right now and that’s a good thing.
Who gives a shit if a turd is, technically, “in charge”? The bus is driving like it’s supposed to.
Did he steal a cookie? They ALL do!
I love the situation we are in right now as well.
I'm afraid though that if Trudeau doesn't step down and let another take the lead for the liberals, the conservatives might get a majority.
Just to provide a counterpoint here.
I'm left leaning on most issues, and I don't think the current parliamentary composition is a good thing at all. The Liberals have a comfortable minority, and have an explicit agreement with the NDP that props them up. This means the Liberals simply do what they were going to do anyway, and the NDP rattles their sabres about cost of living and pharmacare and dental care, to no real effect. Liberals are not effectively kept in check, and real progressive policy issues that could materially benefit Canadians aren't being put forward.
I don't like it, and I don't think it serves the plurality of Canadian citizen views - we're in a bad place and I don't see how anyone who isn't already a Liberal voter could love it.
The NDP is only proping them up on confidence class votes (like a budget for example). The majority of votes are not like that.
You can suggest that the NDP haven't gotten anything, but they DID get dental care, and that is a huge win and shouldn't be brushed aside.
NDP isn't just voting with Liberal on every issue. So yes, this is the best case scenario and is representing a plurality of Canadians.
I want Trudeau gone.
Not EVER at the expense of letting Poilievre into power, though.
Literally this. It's fucking stupid that Trudeau is willing to risk his party's chances because he's too full of himself to step down. That kind of selfish stupidity is how you destroy the country you say you care about.
He has a better chance than anyone else in his party
I don't mind Trudeau. A significant chunk of the electorate has grown sick of him, though. He needs to step back, or else we'll end up like Ontario with Wynne. She didn't bow out and look at who got in.
Yeah I don’t mind him either, but that’s the thing, I don’t particularly like him and never have. He’s just another stooge in a suit serving corporate interests.
Liberals and Conservatives are both serve their corporate masters, but the liberals do it with a rainbow paint job and I prefer that paint job to the conservative’s selfish dickheadery.
Once again: thank you Quebec and the Bloc Québécois for fucking up the seat count enough to prevent us from becoming a two party system.
Can't blame Wynne for Ford's *re-*election, though!
No, that's clearly on the old dancing 6flags guy.
The liberals are toast at this point in 2025, even if they switch leaders ahead of it. Nothing they can do will make things more affordable for voters prior to that election, and that's going to be the number one reason people are voting.
Probably a better long-term Liberal electoral strategy is for Justin to lose, resign quickly, and get replaced for the 2029 election than to have a new leader come in prior to the 2025 election and lose, and then have that same person try for 2029.
Having a new leader for 3 years, and 4 years of people getting mad at the Conservatives for not actually improving things like they've been saying they can magically do is more likely to lead to a Liberal election success for that follow up election in 2029.
Just my nickel.
Is it just me or has Global News really taken a turn to the right in the last few years? Maybe not as bad as NatPost, but still I thought they used to be more neutral than they are now.
Their articles are also extremely dishonest half the time. They seem to ignore any nuance in issues that very much require it to rile people up.
The cons have been campaigning against Trudeau directly since the "nice hair" commercials so many years ago.
We need this guy. He's perfectly mundane, seems to dodge tan-suit controversy like Muhammad Ali, and, most importantly, he's taught kids: nothing better prepares someone to handle elitist flacks like Bitcoin Milhouse than elementary school.
And he's the perfect filter for the NDP's feel-good plan of the moment -- a bidirectional filter. Mr Singh can propose something, WaterHole can resist and then dramatically give in, cons hate Justin, Orange hates Justin, Bleu always hates Justin, greens hate Justin; Canada hates Justin, and Justin doesn't care.
As a punching bag that holds the status quo in tough times against 4 flavours of snowflake? Chef's kiss perfectly suited.
Conservatories: "He's just not ready"
Also conservatives: our current runner and the one previous are both the same age (or younger) than the guy who we said wasn't ready.
Conservative voters: Blue good!
So instead of voting for a douche, people intend on voting for a turd sandwich. Great.::: spoiler Title
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The clock is ticking for Trudeau to turn things around.
If his government can implement sweeping reforms to housing, transportation, labour rights, healthcare and pharmacare (which sounds like it's coming next year), and actually take the many oligopolies to task (they haven't done well enough on groceries and telecom yet), Trudeau and the Liberals will get my vote. Otherwise I'm leaning NDP.
(All of it is a lot to ask for, but knocking at least one of the park to me will be a promising sign)
Yeah that's the problem ... I don't think the Liberals will do anything against wealth or corporations because they're all invested in each other.
And all that needs to happen two months before the election is a huge conservative party marketing campaign 'Fuck Trudeau' bumper stickers and the country will usher in a conservative government with open arms.
Then everyone will spend five to ten years belly aching about it all and switch back to liberal again.
I'm an NDP supporter, always was and always will be, but unfortunately the country is way too short sighted and ignorant to ever want to change between red or blue which at this point in history much like the Americans, are two parties that are different only in name and colour.
You're absolutely right, it doesn't take a fortune teller to see it.
The best I can realistically expect is Trudeau will swing and miss on big changes next year like Ontario's former Premier Wynne, that Canadians will at least be able to look fondly on after the next conservative government entirely removes the programs or weakens them heavily.
It's more likely that we'll stick to the status quo and the Liberal party will scurry off into irrelevance for 4-10 years.
If we get pharmacare for all, how does that interact with most people having some kind of private drug coverage? Could it cover the remaining differential (insurance covers 70% or whatever)? And just eliminate the tax deduction?
Its gonna be the only way to get drug costs down I would conjeccture 🤔
Edit: any insurance bros wanna help me out here and chime in
It's "all change" in politics all around the world. The economy is shit and we've been taught to blame politicians.
The Liberals would get a lot more support if they looked like they gave a shit about oligopolies and the cost of living. Yes, they've made a few policy statements, but they don't resonate.
Show up and vote non-Poilievre, people. Please.
I implore you. Turnout is the lowest effort good thing you can do to help prevent a cycle of conservatism from wrecking the littlest good things there are to celebrate. It's too tragic to observe this with ABC-driven municipalities right now, having that on federal level too will be too much.
I'm not too knowledgeable of politics. As PM, is it actually Trudeau's decision whether he'll be the candidate next election and not a political equivalent of a Federal Liberal board of directors that's pretty independent of the PMO?
Trudeau does well when expectations are low (like his first televised debate in 2015). Being behind is probably better for him than being in the lead.