Proton Mail founder vows to fight Australia’s eSafety regulator in court rather than spy on users | Australia news | The Guardian
Proton Mail founder vows to fight Australia’s eSafety regulator in court rather than spy on users | Australia news | The Guardian
Andy Yen says draft safety standards ‘would force online services … to access, collect and read users’ private conversations’
Andy Yen says draft safety standards ‘would force online services … to access, collect and read users’ private conversations’
What the hell Australia. This isn't gonna magically help you prevent the next Emu war.
But it will help them in their corruption and self-enrichment, which is the entire purpose of all attempts to erode civil liberties.
Australia is a country with shit laws as someone who lives in Australia
Life is fine unless you somehow manage to break those stupid laws
For example there was that video of the one guy from Australia who wanted to ban anime, yeah some of our politician's are that stupid
Thankfully anime isn't banned completely but hentai is which I find stupid because it's fictional drawings
Hentai is NOT banned here in Australia. As an Australian I'm sure you knew that and had some reason to lie. The freaks who import DVDs and manga from Japan depicting minors are getting targeted by immigration, but it isn't a general ban. But who cares about them? If they are looking for something too fucked up to be on the internet it's probably pedophilia. Also I want you to know that every time I hear someone bring up that hentai is fictional and above criticism I assume they are an actual child molester.
The emu are watching. Waiting. They cannot be stopped.
Or Kangawars. Or Toadwars. Or Kangatoadwars becaue you know those bastards are gonna fuck and make a super beast death machine animal...thing.
The spider turtles are coming
It's worse then you think. As a Australian citizen you are required to comply with any order which includes leaking code and introducing back doors. Failure to comply or notifying your employer about the request will result in federal charges with a sentence between 20 to 60 years in prison. The legislation that contains this was passed almost a year ago.
Recently there's been a wave of mass disruptions and data theft in Australia including most of our ports halting operations for a day and one of our largest phone and internet service providers being compromised where millions of peoples personal information like driver licences and passports being leaked.
That's a really fucking stupid law. Do we need to worry about Australia becoming fascist?
You think that's stupid? How about our leaders:
Too late. Already is.
That's a joke right? It has been for a very long time.
How does that even work? When you push code for a back door it's going to still go through a code review so it's not exactly going to be secret, right?
Yep and then you get fired but atleast you won't go to jail
20year minimum, really? Isnt that also for murder?
I recently switched my email from gmail to proton mail, because fuck google's.. well... everything. Glad to hear that Proton Mail keeps fighting for privacy!
I changed back when google got rid of the free "mail for your domain" and frankly its been a great thing for me. They keep announcing new things that replacing my existing apps.
They have a password manager now that I use. They are finally adding actual fuction to their online drive storage so I can sync files and backup photos.
Its been well worth the price for me. If only they had an office suite lol
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I use the web mail client and thunderbird client and it works fine. Protonvpn works fine in arch linux, there's gui and cli, I prefer cli. Drive isn't on linux yet but web client works wonderfully fast.
To everyone saying they've changed to protonmail, check out https://simplelogin.io/ , owned by proton and free for all paying proton members. Unlimited email aliases so you can have a unique email per service. The apps also on fdroid.
I'm just finishing up that transition myself and glad to hear I made a good choice!
Same, using Proton mail and I am now blissfully Google free. Something else I found the holidays good for is finding out all the old accounts I have floating out there from sites that I interacted with over the years so I can cancel them or change the email if i decide to keep them. But, no more Google! Next on my list is Amazon.
I'm in the (gradual) process of switching all my stuff from Gmail and Google to Proton mail. I really like the mail client and Proton Drive works better on my computers than Google Drive did, but Proton Drive doesn't back up my phone yet and I wish they had an office suite like Google does. I don't put anything important or private on Google docs, but it's useful to be able to access my textbook notes from any of my computers. I haven't used the password manager because I'm using Bitwarden, which I really like.
Protonmail isn't great, their deliberately misleading about the encryption. Many consider protonmail to be a honeypot.
Well god damn it! Did you have any links to articles about it? Also what would you view to be better then proton.me?
The eSafety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, has proposed cloud and messaging service providers should detect and remove known child abuse material and pro-terror material “where technically feasible” – as well as disrupt and deter new material of that nature.
The eSafety regulator has stressed in an associated discussion paper it “does not advocate building in weaknesses or back doors to undermine privacy and security on end-to-end encrypted services”.
I so love these magic wand-waving legislators. "Spy on your users and control what they do on your encrypted platform, but in a way that doesn't break encryption or violate privacy..."
If a corporation won't ruin a good thing, you leave it to government to get the job done.
The Australian government would have you believe that we're in the middle of some kind of CP endemic and everyone needs to suffer for it.
This will catch precisely nobody, as the criminals will immediately move to a different platform, of which there are many.
I host my own mail. If the AFP want to inspect it, they'll need a warrant.
As an Aussie, Australia has cp problem. Most boomers keep getting arrested here for these stuff. Keep you child away from anyone above the age of 60+ as most of these guys getting arrested are around the age and are registered pedo
Edit: going to leave this here for people downvoting. There's many more cases. Keep your kids away from white 60+ year olds.-
https://news.yahoo.com/australia-worst-pedo-p-hile-194840872.html
as most of these guys getting arrested are around the age and are registered pedo
I think Australia has also another problem: they are registered pedo, so I suppose they are guilty of at least a past offense, why on earth should they be able to be outside a jail ?
I love these broad, sweeping statements such as most of 'anyone above the age of 60+' in Australia is a registered paedophile. Just shows a total lack of perspective lmao
But only those within the family.
Attacks by strangers are rare (10% or so), so leave your child with a stranger wherever possible.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The eSafety regulator has stressed in an associated discussion paper it “does not advocate building in weaknesses or back doors to undermine privacy and security on end-to-end encrypted services”.
But privacy and security groups argue the draft standards, as written, could allow the eSafety commissioner to force companies to compromise encryption to comply.
Andy Yen, the founder and chief executive of Proton, told Guardian Australia the proposed standards “would force online services, no matter whether they are end-to-end encrypted or not, to access, collect, and read their users’ private conversations”.
“These proposals could not only force companies to bypass their own encryption, but could put businesses and citizens at risk while doing little to protect people from the online harms they are intended to address,” he said.
A spokesperson for the eSafety commissioner said Inman Grant welcomed feedback on the draft standards – including on the technical feasibility exception.
“Having mandatory and enforceable codes in place, which put the onus back on industry to take meaningful action against the worst-of-the-worst content appearing on their products and services, is a tremendously important online safety milestone,” Inman Grant said.
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Technically maybe, but not necessarily. This is tactic that executives use all the time to force their employees to do illegal, or unethical actions, without ever telling them to.
For example, Wells Fargo executives didn't tell their bank employees to commit fraud, but they set their sales targets such that the ONLY way to reasonably achieve them was to defraud their customers.
However, I didn't read the actual white paper, so maybe it does explicitly say backdoors need to be built.
Hey inman grant if you ever see this, fuck you
We know your acting intentionally obtuse
Good. I fully support them. Fuck this shit
Organisations and groups who want to protect privacy should come up with ways themselves on how to protect their services from certain activities.
But didn't proton give up some information to like the Finnish government or something like that a couple years back? Like I mean what they're doing now is good, but what about that other thing that happened?
They follow Swiss law. The Swiss govt had a legal warrant and they only provided legally required informationafter that.
It's not anarchic. They still have to abide by the law of their jurisdiction.
They gave up information to the Swiss government after they got a warrant, and due to the way Proton works, they were only able to give them the IP address so they could arrest the person, who was also Swiss. They didn’t compromise security, because they can’t.
They don’t respond to demands from other governments, and the Swiss government haven’t cooperated with other governments either, so far as anyone knows. In the end, there isn’t really anything the Australian government can do to them if they refuse to create a backdoor for them.