Proton Pass open source password manager is now available on F-Droid

Proton is great but I do feel wary from putting all my eggs in one basket again.
- Same, staying with bitwarden for now
  
  Bitwarden also has better features for now like more solid URL matching (handy if you have a bunch of services on subdomains of the same domain name).
  
  Same, staying with keepass for forever
  
  Same. Although the simplelogin integration seems nice.
- I was just about to write this... Proton is cool, but I only use mail from them. All my other services are independent from each other, and soon I will be self hosting most of them.
  
  I'm switching from privatevpn to protonvpn just for the port forwarding with wireguard within a terminal, no stupid GUI app. Quite pleased with the service, they do VPN well.

The backend is proprietary. Avoid.
- As all things Proton.
  
  I use their mail system, and it's pretty good ngl
  
  Best alternative for email?
  
  Even steam proton?
- Avoid why?
  
  Because we only know what the client does, and have no clue on the server side of things, allowing Proton to do any manipulations with the data. Not ideal when you consider it for password storage.

Just give me a Linux client for proton drive please. I'm tired of manually uploading/downloading files 😐
- Yeeeeees. If you're orienting your company as the privacy-alternative it'd be great to emphasize support for the main privacy-oriented OS. I get that developers don't grow on trees, but this seems like a pretty crucial feature that should be prioritized.
  I mean, I recently switched to Proton knowing what I was getting into, but I'd really like to see this happen soon.
- an official client is on the way but for now
  
  Very cool! Thank you for this.
  
  I tried this before and it was very unreliable when used with WebDAV.

I'll still stick with bitwarden, but if I were to introduce someone very tech illiterate, I would probably recommend proton
- I'm tech illiterate and been using Bitwarden for 3 years (premium), and honestly it doesn't work very well on Android. Every time I need to enter a password, it's completely hit-or-miss with Bitwarden. Half of the time it doesn't even pop up. I'm using Xiaomi phone and tablet with stock rom (global version).
  Should I switch to Proton?
  
  Before switching you should maybe read this and wait for the native app : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1b32bbz/going_native_the_future_of_the_bitwarden_mobile/
  
  I have the same issue with Keepass2Android. I think the issue is with Android itself rather than the password app.
  
  Sometimes you have to long press on the password box and bitwarden might appear or a little "autofill" option may appear along in the 3 vertical dots pop up. Most of the time, Bitwarden auto pops up for me.
  I feel like if you're already using Bitwarden and you're talking to us on Lemmy, you're not tech illiterate.
  
  Try the free version and switch to premium if you like it better than bitwarden.
  
  Same problem on 1password.
  As a mobile developer I can tell you that working with Android keyboards has been a giant fucking pain in ass since inception to today.
  While I can't speak specifically to why they both seem to have this problem, I wouldn't be surprised if the OS is part of the problem.
  I wouldn't be shocked that if someone had it working consistently, it might be because of the most heinous hacks, or private greylisted APIs or some other nonsense.
  
  Which sites or apps does it not pop up? It is rare for it not to pop up for me.

I'll take KeepassXC and KeepassDX + SyncThing, just works and I don't have to ever rely on someone else for my most sensitive data.
- This. At least until i find a better solution than syncthing. But keepass(xc) all the way.
  
  I tried Google Drive, and also Seafile. the catch is that it needs to sync the files to your phones local file system. You could also do Next cloud or use Folder sync. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.lite

- Drive is under a different org:
  https://github.com/ProtonDriveApps/android-drive

For me keepassxc is a dramatic improvement over a centralised service.
- I use both and am afraid that I will lose the passwords in Proton Pass as Its a service they can restrict me of.
  I should startto copy some accountd that I dont have yet in keepass but keepass is still the master holder
  
  I'm not really sure what happens if Proton bans your account for any reason but Proton Pass does have offline access. I assume if you turn off internet access, you can still get all your passwords.
  
  Is that not the same risk vith bitwarden too

How does it compare to vaultwarden/bitwarden?
- When it launched the apps were more modern than bitwarden. If bitwarden hasn't improved since, then it's still the same
  
  Bitwarden’s interface hasn’t changed a bit and it’s a pity
- I don't think protonpass has auto fill even on browser extension.
  Or maybe I'm too stupid to figure it out. I ran side by side against bitwarden which I love. Could not figure out a way that didn't make me manually c/p the creds.

Neat, I'm personally gonna keep with KeepassDX, but it's good knowing that there's some more variety popping up in the mobile market.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket
- Very much agree
  I use protonmail and very happy with that, so much so I pay for it.
  But I would not place my mail and all my secrets in the same spot.

for the love of god use a free open source app like keepass, this is a untrustworthy company
- I've been using Keepass like more than 5 years. And its perfect.
- Which F-Droid client is that?
  
  it's the standard one
  
  Looks like the standard F-Droid client
  Oh wait it's not, F-Droid doesn't show the file size at the top
- Or even better use a local password manager. People will be swallowed by so much false comfort
  
  keepass is local
  
  Isn't keepass local?
- both of them you download and use, it requires the smae amount of technical knowledge. in fact you could argue, that proton pass takes more technical expertise since you need to set up a account online first.

Proton VPN and nothing more.

Long time Bitwarden user. Never been steered wrong. One of the few apps that I pay for premium not because I need the extra features, but because I value it enough to support the devs financially

They need to focus on providing quality services instead of quantity. The ProtonMail webmail is a shame: multiple selection lost if you click just outside the checkbox because that will open the email, emails that just after have been deketed reappear in the inbox and don't get me started on the search 🤢!
P.s. I've double commented because I've just realized that I've written the other comment in Italian 😆, sorry.
- the password manager kinda sucks too. credit cards are in a category that you have to delete the name of the site you're visiting in order to see. sometimes I question why I'm paying for the thing. lastpass was way better 10 years ago.

Hanno iniziato da un po' di tempo a fornire troppi servizi, dovrebbero focalizzarsi di più a sistemare quelli che hanno. La webmail di Protonmail è un abominio: perdita di selezione multipla aprendo un'email, email che ricompaiono subito dopo averle cancellate, ricerca...stendiamo un velo pietoso!