Too bad most progressive left leaning people who this comic is talking about don't own firearms to fight the ruling class.
And if you're reading this thinking of rebuking with "there's a lot of liberal gun owners", the reality is that most of pro gun culture is monopolized by right wing Republicans and not only do they outnumber you by an alarmingly high order of magnitude, they side with the boot lickers and cops who protect the ruling class.
thats the sad truth of it, they ain't massacring us because we ain't a threat. but back when we were, in not-so-distant past, workers were murdered for disrupting and striking.
they don't care about climate change beyond how it affects their power. they will not just repent and hand the world over.
See, I wonder about this. Perhaps left leaning people are just far less likely to do things that draw attention to their gun ownership. You say gun culture is dominated by the right wing, and I don't disagree with you. Maybe it's just that right wing people make it a cultural thing more.
If it's a cultural thing then, logically speaking, the conservatives would still end up with more guns.
Yes, corporations with billions and private "security ", backed by governments with billions, police armed like the military, and an army, can be defeated by a bunch of good progressists with guns.
I don't know if you're being dumb or sarcastic. Likely your are stupid and forgot your history.
Vietnam NVA did fine with farmers who had no education, so did the Taliban using the same. Both defeated a coalition backed major military superpower with infinite money and significantly better equipment than them.
Guns aren't the only way to make a revolution, tho
We need them on our side!
This is 100% facts
Lemmy seems very class conscious to me, I like that
It was made by and is maintained by Communists, along Communist principles. Hard not to be at least aware.
This explains why the religious nutbags in the ruling class are attempting to bring The End Times,
Taking the expression ‘going out on top’ a little too seriously….
Even if there's a working class revolution, things are still completely fucked.
The biggest issue isn't who is in charge, it's the fact that humans are fundamentally incapable of cooperating across large groups.
We couldn't even get the population to wear masks during a global pandemic killing so many people that hospitals needed to bring in refrigerator trucks to store the bodies.
But those same salt of the earth workers are going to negotiate climate controls with China?
Yeah, right.
The biggest issue isn’t who is in charge, it’s the fact that humans are fundamentally incapable of cooperating across large groups.
I'm not so sure that this is an inherent problem with humanity so much as it is a symptom of our current political and economic systems and culture.
Take you pandemic/mask example for instance. Pretty much everyone was on board with masks, social distancing, etc, until a few weeks/months in when it got politicized. Conservative leaders saw they could rile up their base by take a stance against the science. And they took advantage of our cultural preference for individualism where we could instead have a more collectivist culture.
These systems and cultural norms aren't inherent to humans. It's inherent to our shitty half-democracy, capitalism, etc.
But those same salt of the earth workers are going to negotiate climate controls with China?
The oil lobby pays shit loads of money to propagandize the population in the exact same way the tobacco industry did it. Start dealing with that, and the workers won't buy the bullshit propaganda anymore.
Cooperating across large groups is one of our defining characteristics, as a species.
We could get the population to wear masks, in very large part, because certain ultra wealthy interest groups didn't want to close the economy down and make a little bit less money. So, they polluted the avaliable information. Post working class revolution, the idea would be for them to not have the power to do that.
We can't use a problem caused by the system as an argument against changing the system.
We couldn’t even get the population to wear masks during a global pandemic killing so many people that hospitals needed to bring in refrigerator trucks to store the bodies.
Meanwhile China managed to for years
japan too
China's handling of COVID-19 isn't exactly perfect either.
Pretty sure this is the plot of Horizon: Zero Dawn
What a great game!
Unfortunately most lefties are active online instead of local politics.
Seems to have worked pretty well for libertarians with Bitcoin. Maybe we need a wildcat strike app.
Nah, not all life. Just the collapse of civilization as we know it.
Civilization as we know it probably has to collapse anyway if we wanna see the changes that would help everyone.
It unfortunately looks more like you're right every day.
2040 baby! (MIT said so)
That but with C++
I predict a world where it's too hot for most to work, air-conditioning becoming mandatory everywhere, a slowing of development in terms of properties being built. The search for automation as a response. Cooling suits being widely used. The majority of the world's crops failing. Food stipends being delivered on specialised trucks to each home... Perhaps by a division of the military... People dying on mass in the third world and quietly in their rooms in the first. Rolling black outs become waves of death. Experts dying on the job trying to fix them. Skinny bodies fighting for life, or fighting each other for food. Death squads who think killing is the answer. A daily announcement of what percentage of the country is on fire... But we'll probably mostly be dying of thirst by then. Maybe it won't be so bad.
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Nah, working class will kill off the planet just as fast, one has shit to do with the other. Stop shoving your political wants in actual world problems
i dont think we could kill all life on earth even if we tried.
we can't kill all life, we can end humanity though I expect
we could launch every nuke at once and cockroaches and tardigrades would just have a blast without us
We'll probably terra form Mars by then, so at least humanity and whatever animals we deem the cutest and tastiest would survive.
Every time climate discussion comes up and i point out that we can do things to decrease their own impact, i'm met with anger and relentless defense that they have no responsibility and it's all corporations.
So I have little faith that any worker revolution will solve the problem.
Individual changes are negligible compared to corporations though. Also, changes that would benefit would be to improve public transit to reduce carbon emission, but that is something on the government level. This people are rightly pointing out that individual changes would account to like less than 1% of the emissions. A workers Revolution would change this because it would implement all the changes needed on corporations and public transit, among other.
People should be doing what they can, but that will only partially address maybe 8% of the problem hence why that conversation comes up.
So there is a little no waste shop by me. I've turned on numerous neighbors to it. They have grown quite well and are moving into a bigger space, and even have talked about opening a second store...and basically don't do any advertising. It's all word of mouth.
While I agree with you that the focus should be on corporations, ultimately the reason these corporations are producing stuff is because individuals are consuming it. If more consumers show a willingness and desire to buy low carbon shit, the more it will be catered to. I do believe this would have a leveraging affect.
I absolutely agree with the concept, it's something I've argued in the past (although less in a loss of profit, than simply a loss of hard to enumerate "rights), I just never knew there was an established concept for it. So thanks for that.
But I don't see how it applies here. Unless you're agreeing with me and something like driving (one of the first examples given in the article) is an externality that should be addressed, and something that the individual often has some control over. But what it's always met with, as it was here, "It's really not my fault so I have no responsibility to change my behavior at all."
In my personal experience, and I'm lucky to have this available to me a lot: our rules is that if it's a 15 minute or less walk, we walk it. I bike to work most mornings when the weather is nice. These are things I could often just drive because "eh, what's my contribution going to do?" But I try my best (certainly still a work in progress), because i understand my actions are an negative externality for much of the rest of the world.
This doesn't preclude me from pushing for larger scale things too, but at least I also put my money where my mouth is.
