Saudis forgot to deposit their hush money to atlantic (first time it happened in 20 years 😱😱😱)

lol, lmao, it was known on sep 12th 2001 that 15 out of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, 2 were from the UAE, 1 was from Lebanon, and 1 was from Egypt, and yet the United States found it necessary to take military action in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan.

The US is encircling the hijackers, don't you see? Anytime now, they'll be forced to come out and surrender after being besieged!
- it's like that "desert music" essay where the midpoint of armenian and indian instruments is the middle east
Evergreen clip of General Wesley Clark laying out the plan they had "post"-9/11

If we had known that 20 years ago, Bush would have had a much weaker case justifying war in Iraq.

doubt a hog needs no reason to wallow in the muck

I mean they're not wrong; it's just that Bush already had a weak case for justifying war in Iraq, it's just people were terrified of their shadows and would've jumped on any psychopathic war if it meant events like 9/11 don't happen again, even if the country we're going to war with were never a threat anyway.

Uhhh didn't they find the hijackers saudi passports like the next day

something a person, un-hireable by the atlantic would have said
Yes, I assume this answers the mystery of how they had valid US visas
Weren't many of the accused hijackers still alive and came forward to say "Hey I work in aviation and I obviously didn't do that" but they never corrected the record? I remember hearing/reading that somewhere.

Wow, so you're saying that if this information were made public in 2002, Powell wouldn't have lied about wmds, and Iraqis wouldn't have been scary brown heathens? Incredible!

I'm reminded of something I recall a lady giving a speech once said (for the life of me I can't remember whether she was a socialist, or basically anything else about her) that (Times?) magazine once ran a poll to see how many people believed Iraq was involved in 9/11 and found that around 70% of respondents believed that yes, Iraq was involved, despite there being absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

But have you considered that Saddam was selling oil in euro instead of USD at the time?

9/11 was just a pretense/opportunity for the US to get involved in Iraq, just like the Maidan Revolution in 2013 Ukraine was an opportunity for the US to break up the Russia-Europe gas deal, as the newly constructed Nord Stream pipeline began to pump natural gas into Europe in 2011.

Whether it was Iraq, or Ukraine, the goal of the empire stays the same: to destroy the energy sovereignty of Europe.

I legit don't understand why the director of the CIA personally protected the guys in LA and SD prior to 9/11. His own agents tried to warn the rest of the government about the potential of plane hijackings by them, but their report wasn't allowed to be sent until it was 1.5 years too late (source: blowback season 4 ep 6 ground zeroes at around 36 minutes and 51 minutes)

Too much money to be made destabilizing the Middle East to stop it.

Idk if this is a tinfoil hat take.
Prolly was thinking they were doing cool anti usa-enemy terrorism instead of horrible anti-usa terrorism, and then was covering their own ass?

We knew about it the day after the attacks.

Michael Moore did a whole god damn movie about it in 2004.

There were all those court cases where the 9/11 families sued Saudi Arabia and the US government leaned hard on the courts to toss it out and classified everything and refused to hand over documents during discovery

Fuck this bullshit

Exhibit #1213 of liberals unceremoniously admitting the left was correct 20 years after the fact.

I don't get how to this day, everyone knows this, yet the government still stands.

Seriously, even my lib friends know something was sus involving our "allies" attacking us and then invading multiple different countries in the region. You're not sneaky Amerikkka.

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Nice, Atlantic.

But let's go deeper

Osama bin Laden's father was direct friends with the House of Saud, the royal family. His businesses made the bin Ladens the second richest family in Saudi Arabia after only the royal family.

The bin Ladens were also close acquaintances, friends one might say, with a certain George H W Bush and his son George W Bush, both who went on to be president.

So when the Atlantic acts like this is new information or a surprise... "to who" is my question. Who is surprised? I've known of Saudis involvement for, well, basically since 9/11. When you learn that Bush secured safe flights out of the country for bin Laden family members in the US after the attacks, it's a very short rabbit hole to "oh, this motherfucker WAS FRIENDS with the guy's family who just did this massive attack. THATS FUCKING ODD"

This is part of the "Bush did 9/11" conspiracy theory which I don't fully believe, but it's safe to say ,imo, that the Bushes did 9/11 as in H W set the conditions necessary as CIA director and then twice VP for a man with advanced dementia and then president himself for one term. Decades of combined time in extreme high positions of governmental power on top of being an oil man. Then his son becomes president and whammo blammo the perfect situation just magically materializes that allows W to enact the most insane dreams of his father.

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