There is only one species of dog, canis familiaris. I still wouldn’t call a chihuahua and a great dane the same thing. Species or subspecies, indica is still a different thing.
Huh, last I looked somewhere I'm pretty sure indica was considered a subspecies, not a distinct species. Thanks for the update or correction, either or.
Oh wait no I should've known, it's something we're still pretty much arguing over. That is whether sativa and indica (and ruderalis) are both suspecies, or whether they're all their own species in the same family.
And dog breeds are still (at least in the vast majority) not even different subspecies, just different breed (variants of the same species)
Indica is technically "cannabis sativa indica" and then a strain would technically be written fully as "C. sativa var indica, 'Indian Kush'" or "C. sativa indica, var 'Northern Lights'" or something to that effect. But also sativa would be like "C. sativa sativa, var. 'Durban Poison'"
This is all up for debate, I'm not saying there's consensus on what is or isn't correct. Just inputting a lil content to Lemmy
And there's only one species of wild cabbage, Brassica oleracea. Get out of here with that "broccoli", "kale", "cabbage" or "brussel sprouts" nonsense!
These are pretty different though, as cannabis has literally dozens of different cannabinoids and terpenes, but "magic mushrooms" refers to psilocybin shrooms, which all have psilocybin and psilocin in varying amounts.
Obviously life will refuse to be neatly classified, but that doesn't mean people smarter than us won't still try to do it in order to better understand the world.
... yes? Did you not read your own link? There are several definitions of "species" offered. Go have a look at how this applies to Cannabis and perhaps you will get my point.
Life is much more complicated than the middle school definition. Some of the more interesting species are "sterile" crosses that have overcome the sterility. For example the ancestry of wheat.
Wheat is mostly a hexaploid aka 6 copies of each chromosome. It arose from a triploid interspecific cross (triploids are always sterile) that spontaneously doubled (hexaploids are fertile).
As a hexaploid it can be crossed to diploid rye to produce fertile offspring called triticale (tetraploid). Crossing triticale to either wheat or rye creates sterile offspring (pentaploid & triploid)
So are they all one species because they can sometimes produce fertile offspring?
this is actually one thing that has pissed me off for 30+ years. to be fair, there is 2-3 types, one for smoking, one for hemp products (non smoking/not getting high) and the wild kind.
Kinda sorta a bit different but you got the gist down close enough. 🙏
Cannabaceae is the plants family which is good shit btw 🤩🧐
There are two ways of thinking I’m aware of. It’s all cannabis sativa. Or. It’s cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and cannabis ruderalis as the three sub species.
Ruderalis is literally ditch weed in that it grows randomlyin the ditch’s around midwestern America, near where “hemp” was produced previously, and produces nothing smokeable or enjoyable I’m aware of.
Hemp is just a governmental term applied to the cannabis plant to denote it has less than .3% THC making it non psychoactive. This is currently heavily abused in the USA as THCa, the naturally occurring acid that grows on cannabis, melts or converts into THC with heat. And the law seemingly defines it into as THC being over .3% not THCa. Weird loophole.
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species
I think the confusion is that there are two well-known subgroups of cannabis sativa, indica and sativa (ruderalis is more obscure). So the species and subgroup have the same name, to the consternation of indica lovers.
It may also be referential to the greater indica/sativa internet drama, there are fierce disputes about the differences or lack thereof. The confusion is amplified due to the lack of quality control in cannabis genetics and sales, and most strains are hybrids between the two (or three)
As I read it, it’s basically saying there’s only one kind of red wine: red. You’re right, but you’re ignoring all of the subcategories that the typical consumers use to talk about it.
Weed smokers typically consider strains to be either Indica or Sativa, but there’s a whole debate about if those are real differences at all. The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa, hence why this statement is true.
Yeah but the original cannabis indica described has none of the physical characteristics of what it does today, there is not a genetic difference between sativa and indica that is sold in the cannabis market today.
The hops used for brewing beer belong to the same family as marijuana and have a similar alkaloid, the hop harvesters at the end of the day can confirm this.
And yet they are very very different each strain. Doesnt matter if "indica" is fake, they test how it smoked and declare it that type and it is a meaningful difference.
Things marked sativa give me headaches inevitably. Hybrids and indica marked bud doesnt. There is a difference in how breeds effect you, despite incorrect colloquial naming.
In reality testing shows that named strains are not a thing, the testing shows THC and cbd content among things like tannins occasionally, but the only proven relevance to anything is THC.
"Incorrect colloquial naming" is an understatement, genetically weed strains as they are named don't exist at all.
That said, stuff labeled indica on the package may have been formulated to be more relaxing by the manufacturer. Such as by having more CBD and less THC.
That psychological addiction can be rough, fam. It affects some more than others. I've quit more than a couple times. Hope you're doing well and holding strong.