The capitalist press

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26512687

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IIUC,
the US had/has a Communist party, and you could probably sell copies of Pravda;
while the USSR had no liberal party, and it's doubtful you could have a copy of the NYT.
- The illusion of choice.
  They'll never be allowed to be in power

So this was paid for and published by Commintern, The Communist International, also known as the Third International which operated from 1919 to 1943. This was published in the 1930s while Joseph Stalin was in charge.
The fact that some people would post this unironically when the person who sent this message was notorious for the iron-fucking-curtain is beyond stupid.
- It’s 2025 today. The messsge is the same but with a different context.
  
  Maybe instead of leaning on the message of fascists you could express your concerns in some other way. One that doesn't degrade yourself in the process. Like making your own comics with your own words.
- OP is a tankie, and an exceptionally uneducated one at that.
- Yeah lemmy.ml is leaking again
  
  Is there a way to block all users from an instance? Blocking the instances just seems to hide their communities
- On the other hand, could you also argue that dismissing something out of hand because the person who made it worked for a publication that aligned itself with a philosophy that was being used by a country that was being led by a bad man, well, kind of stupid too?
  
  But tell us how you feel about Tesla owners......
  
  No.
  This is malfeasance etched into paper. The intent was by people who wished us harm.
  Imagine if you started quoting a leader of the KKK because even though hes a hateful violent asshole maybe some cherrypicked quotes seemed innocent. Do you think you would be well recieved?
- Thank you for the context. The desperation about current (fascist) extreme-right politics really makes some people swing so hard towards the left they just end up with another flavour of fascism.
  (I know the horseshoe theory is garbage, please don't @ me about it)
  
  The best propaganda is the truth. The capitalist press was and is actively lying to you, and when they do tell a truth that goes against capital interests they get punished for it.
  That the Soviets were doing the same thing is just another example of why only anarchists are cool and smart 😎
- This counterrevolutionary talk will get you sent to gulag.
  
  And revolutionary talk will get you sent to prison to be slave labor for a private prison industry.
- [Response copied and pasted from a crosspost that copied and pasted the comment this is in response to]
  My current opinion is, a message can be good or bad regardless of the source. That can have exception when there's hidden implication of support for evil deeds (ex. all lives matter). In this case, I can recognize the truth in this message that still resonates today and don't see the implication of support for the entirety of Stalin's actions. Also, bringing up the iron curtain is actual pretty ironic, given that was about isolationism and this comic is (at least on the surface) anti-isolationist.
  
  My current opinion is, don't align yourself with dictators and you won't get called out for promoting authoritarian hellscapes.
- Reminds me of this quoted exchange I read in Stalin's biography recently. Situation is Stalin being increasingly irritated with Molotov, his long-time comrade and lashing out at a meeting, in 1941 (before the war)
  Stalin did not conceal his disapproval of Molotov. He very impatiently listened to Molotov’s rather prolix responses to comments from members of the Bureau.… It seemed as if Stalin was attacking Molotov as an adversary and that he was doing so from a position of strength.… Molotov’s breathing began to quicken, and at times he would let out a deep sigh. He fidgeted on his stool and murmured something to himself. By the end he could take it no longer:
  “Easier said than done,” Molotov pronounced in a low but cutting voice. Stalin picked up [Molotov’s] words.
  “It has long been well-known,” said Stalin, “that the person who is afraid of criticism is a coward.”
  Molotov winced, but kept quiet—the other members of the Politburo sat silently, burying their noses in the papers.… At this meeting I was again convinced of the power and greatness of Stalin. Stalin’s companions feared him like the devil. They would agree with him on practically anything
  I'm willing to bet everyone in that meeting almost drowned in the irony but also deathly afraid to say anything
- Ima just leave this here... WaPo OpEd to publish OEd that agree with Bezos
  
  Ah you're right, we should all get together and protest this by agreeing with Hitler or something. /sarcasm
- Ad hominem attack - "this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself"
  
  Don't you know that Hitler was against the ad hominem, I can't take serious advice from someone who sides with Hitler
  /godwin
- Not only are you completely wrong about what fascism is, you are arguing that since the Comintern, an international committee, published a political cartoon, that Stalin personally made and published it single-handedly. This is stupid, there is no way that Stalin could personally run around and do everything the government did in the Soviet Union. That would be a practically superhuman feat.
  
  And yet he craved central control of everything

With every person dedicated to getting more people onto Linux Distros, Fediverse, and ATProtocol apps that just shines the light more and makes it a lot harder for them to spread lies or project their "power"
Linux Distros for Desktop:
Linux Mint Pop!_OS (Should be called Cosmic OS, sounds better) Fedora Workstation Asahi Fedora Remix
Mobile Android Alt Distros:
LineageOS GrapheneOS
For Fediverse Apps:
Mastodon Pixelfed PeerTube Lemmy Diaspora Friendica
For ATProtocol Apps:
Bluesky Pinksky Flashes Spark
Let's spread the word ladies and gentlemen!!
- I got banned from Reddit for suggesting doing what the French did. I got banned for that suggestive language despite a corporation having no qualms in harboring actual Nazi's who spread their message through loose doublespeak.
  Free speech is not a right on social media, especially a privately owned forum that wants you to stay longer on their site for advertisement money.

"Public opinion exists only where there are no ideas."- Oscar Wilde.
I think public opinion is overrated. Too many fools in the public. Just look at MAGA idiots in US.
- I believe public opinion is fairly left leaning. Just looks how popular Bernie and AOC are. It's just that corporate media discourse is very good at suppressing left wing views.
  
  You can describe socialist and communist policies and people generally love them. You just can't use those thought terminating trigger words.
  
  What I mean is taking the opinion of the public seriously. I mean, people believe in a lot of weird things and that includes me. As an example, lot of people are anti-vaxxers, that doesn't actually make vaccines dangerous. Should their opinion matter? If so, how much?
  I think the quote is meant to consider that sometimes we must ignore public opinion and do what is right. But, I agree some nuance could be lost. But sadly, the quote has no context because it is from a list of quotes Oscar Wilde wrote. Maybe, we should supply our own nuance.?

And everyone believed the propaganda about tiktok "needing" the hostile take over.

Now show the comic about the other meaning behind "the capitalist press"
- ...Is it like a sex position? 😕
  
  Could be the finishing move of The Million Dollar Man*?
  *approximately 32 Billion Dollar Man with inflation
  
  I was thinking more along the scene from Terminator but I like your style

pretty sure there's plenty of socialism online, I don't think the capitalists are hiding people from that.
- They just spend billions of dollars making sure Joe Rogan is on every from page and in a favorable spot in the algorithm.