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Ontario rips up $100M Starlink contract ahead of U.S. tariffs

www.cp24.com Ontario pausing retaliatory measures after tariffs postponed, Doug Ford says

Ontario Premier Doug Ford says the province is pausing a suite of retaliatory measures that it was set to begin implementing following an 11th hour postponement of U.S. tariffs.

Ford’s office made the announcement Monday and said the government is also banning other American companies from provincial contracts going forward

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Ontario ends $100M Starlink agreement ahead of U.S. tariffs

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Hit them where it hurts. Their wallets!
- Musk will sue them for boycotting him.
  
  In Canadian court? Lmao
  
  Like he cares about reality.
  
  iLL sUe yOu!!1!
- Just be precise, watch out for the 'little guy'. It's not sane US citizens doing this. We're experiencing a coup over here, neighbor. And the sane ones are trying to figure out how to get back to being good neighbors, and stop the corporate coup. srsly.
  
  Were experiencing a coup yes, but the American little guy has their head up their ass. Don't let us starve for sure, but if Trump triggers the most financially difficult time in the average American's life maybe our countryfolk will learn for once.
  I don't want a tight and difficult few years. It was hard before and I'm terrified of my upcoming financial situation. But also our voting populace asked for this.
  
  A very slight majority of those who voted, combined with about 19million who didn't or couldn't vote. But yes, otherwise I agree.
  Hoping for the best, peparing for the worst. :-/
  
  It's not sane US citizens doing this
  At some point we need to hit their pocket too.
  33% of American didn't even bother to show up and vote. They're complicit in this, and they deserve the pinch to wake the fuck up as to what their country is doing.
  And if that's not enough, well.... the sane ones might need to get off their ass and start doing something about the rampant assholes running around shitting on everyone.
  
  Lol, I did vote for all the good it did. I'm no more complicit in the actions of Trump's administration than any run-of-the-mill Russian civilian is for the actual land war being waged by their government.
  Me, you, and all the other little guys worldwide, we are being punked by global oligarchy.
  
  Speaking of turnout, Ontario has an election coming up. Last time, Doug Ford (Conservative) was voted back in with a turnout of 43%. So about 57% of Ontarians didn't bother to take a few minutes to vote. And now our healthcare and education systems are being dismantled for the sake of profit. Maybe on February 27th we can get a slightly less shameful turnout and vote for someone who will actually stand up for Ontario's public services and stand up against the USA's bullying and threats?
  
  The biggest problem is the "wake-up" isn't going to be in favor of reality. All blame is going to fall on the people working hardest to actually make effective change. There is far too much propaganda and yellow journalism in the US for that hurt to be directed in the right way.
  It's much easier to direct an angry mob with simple lies than complex truth.
  
  You hit the nail right on the head.
  As a person who lives in the U.S., the corporate ownership of the media is a huge problem. Pair that with the larger social media companies all censoring content now, and there’s no sense of ‘reality’ here anymore.
  There are protests happening in major American cities, and they are only being covered by the local media of those cities, and their reach stymied online. It’s clear to me that the media is intentionally downplaying anti-Trump sentiment.
  
  The same thing happened with the Iraq war protests both before and after Bush invaded. Massive protests in all the big cities and smaller ones in the small cities, all but ignored by the media. They only mentioned in passing that there even were protests--no footage, no live reports, just crickets. This has been going on with the media for well over 25 years. It all started going to hell after Reagan revoked the Fairness Doctrine. You can trace pretty much everything that's led to the downfall of this country back to Reagan.
  
  Everything you said is right. But a reminder for everyone scrolling that the CBC did NOT try to erase the 2003 World Says No To War protests:
  https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/millions-say-no-to-war-in-iraq-1.411411
  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-join-global-peace-rally-1.397326
  "There's no question Canadians are beginning to become worried and fearful," NDP leader Jack Layton said in Toronto. "But more and more of them expressing their views like this opens up the door to some hope."
  
  Got any stories about that? I mean local edia still has websites.
  
  Great, sure, and I'm in the 33% that said, and is saying "hell to the power of fuck NO".
  Edit: By which I mean I voted against the current shitshow. Sometimes my engrish is unclear. ;-)
  
  why didn't you vote?
  
  Ah, you misunderstand. Allow me to be explicit: I did vote against this shit show. Donvict47 won by 1.5%, and 19 million fewer voters in that election. It was voter suppression that won that election.
  
  People not caring enough to vote isn't "voter suppression".
  
  And how do you feel about propaganda that encourages people to not vote? If the propaganda effectively stops people from voting, e.g. bomb scares at polling places, or you're not in a swing state so your vote doesn't matter, would you call that suppression? Just asking.
  
  You're comfused. 33% of Americans did not vote. To say you're part of that 33% means you didn't vote.
  
  They didn't say they were part of that 33%, they said they were "part of the 33% that said..." Which is a different third of the population
  
  That doesn't make any sense. Harris had 48.3% of the vote.
  
  33% didn't vote. That means 66% did vote. Of the 66% that voted half of them voted against Trump.
  Now, what is half of 66%? 33% is half of 66%.
  So the commenter is saying they are in the 33% of Americans that voted for Kamala.
  33% Trump, 33% Kamala, 33% no vote.
  
  FrostyTD has got it right. Sorry for the confusion, I really shouldn't comment before caffeine.
  
  Okay dokey smokey
  
  There is evidence that voter suppression + not counting/disqualifying forced provisional votes created Trump victory.
  
  Why don't we bring our skills together in a massive co-op that pays us fairly, that starts to compete with these mega corporations
  
  33% of American didn't even bother to show up and vote. They're complicit in this
  Millions in CA, whose votes went to the Dems. So tired of people pretending they can just lump all non voters together when they can't
  
  If you're not against fascists you're with them. There's no middle ground
  
  Lemmy's full of retards, I see
  
  And you seem to be one of them
  
  But the democrats didn't offer me a pony, so not voting was noble and just!
  
  You can lump most of them together (I'd make exceptions for those with a genuine reason they couldn't, a medical issue or absolute lack of transport options for example). even if your state is, and was, solid blue, enough showing support to the Democrat candidate would have meant that Trump couldn't claim a mandate as the popular vote would have gone the other way. Sure, it wouldn't change the outcome itself, but would have given some comfort to those suffering that the majority of voters didn't want this. As it is, he scraped the popular vote, and the record shows that, in fact, the majority of those who could be bothered to vote actually deliberately voted for this.
  
  People who didn't vote had their votes go to the Dems? What?
  
  They're talking about the ridiculous electoral college which should be abolished. But voting is still important. I am in one of the reddest states and I still voted. There were important ballot measures and it's important to still vote even when you know it won't count. Now the dipshit gets to claim a mandate because he won popular vote. And of course with his lying he's calling it a landslide.
  
  Not American but Canadian and live in Alberta. I get off my ass every election and vote even though I know there is not a snowballs chance in hell anything but the cons are getting in power. They have been in power my whole life and longer except for one blip. Hoping for another longer one.
  
  With all due respect, and I’m sorry to those who voted Kamala, this is our only option.
  The only way Canada succeeds is when the American people are hurting enough that they push for change from the inside.
  I’m very sorry to small honest US companies, but we don’t have the luxury of choice or leniency on this matter anymore.
  Also this is the second time Trump has been elected. Whatever excuses people have, I can’t look at this as a one off or crazy event. I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.
  
  As an American, I hope you all please keep doing what you’re doing. Most U.S. citizens may be too chicken shit to say or do anything (yet), but witnessing solidarity among Canadians who refuse to stand down gives me hope.
  As soon as the election was called, I knew my life would be fucked. The U.S. oligarchs think they’re beyond reproach because spineless U.S. citizens aren’t doing anything besides lick boot. The rest of us, feeling trapped and powerless, feel supported by this type of news. Do what you must.
  
  Also this is the second time Trump has been elected. Whatever excuses people have, I can’t look at this as a one off or crazy event. I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.
  tRump is not an aberration, the world is now seeing the USA with the mask dropped. Oligarchy is baked into the U.S. constitution, rich white males have ALWAYS held the power there, despite all the window dressing and PR campaigns. The county was founded on genocide, built on slavery and imperialism, they burned women at the stake for fuck's sake. The slogan "Kill a Commie for Christ" is not just a bumper sticker for half of them, but a bucket list item.
  
  Who would have thought you where founded by rich white men who didn't want to pay taxes and your still ruled by them. I know you have fairy tales to tell you otherwise but....
  
  Let's not get too high-and-mighty though.
  For just one example, the reason BC's old growth forests are something like 98% gone today is because a bunch of rich old white men sold off most of the forest-bearing land to... themselves and their friends. Canada had (and has) its own oligarch infestation.
  
  They had to lay on the fairy tales quite thickly to get the proles to fight their war for them.
  
  I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.
  American exceptionalism and manifest destiny never went away.
  They have been part of the American psyche for generations.
  
  I understand. And of course my concerns are mostly aimed towards those, regardless of nationality who are less well off than myself. When I suggest one support local and small, I know that lessens both of our larger groupings (nations, corporations), at the same time it strengthens our smaller groupings (communities, neighborhoods, families). If you wish, you could buy bicycle parts from these small companies, regardless of location, for instance I just heard of a bike frame builder, Mone' (http://www.monebikes.com/) in Silver City, NM who runs his operation out of a van. If you look, you can find similar in your area. Together, supporting the small circles, we'll move forward humanely. I feel your respect. And, hey, look at us, doing international relations, on a non-corporate federated social media. Nothing to feel sorry about in that. Peace.
  
  Nothing against the guy making bikes in his van, but if anyone is looking for a good made in canada bike frame, moose bicycle is awesome and very reasonably priced.
  
  That's exactly what I'm talkin' about! Now I want a Moose Bike! https://moosebicycle.com/
  
  As a fellow American, I hate to say it, but them’s the breaks. Plenty of Russians suffer under sanctions for a war they had nothing to do with. Even though it’s not our fault as we weren’t Trump supporters, we’re in his stupid boat and will pay the price. It sucks.
  
  Trump won a majority, and the GOP won the house and senate. It's not all US citizens, but if it's not a majority, it's close enough. Is it really a coup if it's what the majority wanted?
  This is hardly a new thing for the US. The world has seen the US elect Bush Jr, who alienated the world with his desire to invade Iraq. Remember Freedom Fries? At the same time that was going on, Canada, which did support the US when it invaded Afghanistan, said that Iraq was a bridge too far, and refused to participate in that. The result was the GOP drumming up anti-Canada hate, people boycotting Canadian products, etc. Then in the years since Bush, the US has elected Trump not once but twice. This is who you guys are now.
  
  Tru.p won a majority of who showed up.
  More effort on the political right was spent on making voting more difficult and driving voter apathy ("Genocide Joe") than on getting people to vote for Trump, because Trump.would never win if everyone showed up.
  He's the only President to never reach 50% approval ratings. He's objectively the least-popular President in US History. The only way to get him back into office was to reduce voter turnout.
  
  If you didn't show up you supported the winner. End of story, show up or get lumped in with the winner.
  
  Read this
  
  Whatever makes you feel better.
  
  This is who you guys are now.
  And have been for some time. That's why it's frustrating to see all the posts from people who think if Democrats would just move to the left, they'd win. I'm sorry but no. No, they wouldn't. It's frustrating because the right/conservative majority isn't that large. Maaaybe if we didn't have the electoral college, there would be some shifting to the left, but it wouldn't be as much as the left thinks it would be. (braces for downvotes)
  
  It's not really so much about the party moving "left" as much as them not appealing to their base or representing their constituents' ideals. Kamala was asked if she'd done anything differently than Biden and she said no. When most Americans are facing economic uncertainty, that's about the worst thing you can possibly say. People vote for change and they weren't willing to sell that. They too went on TV and said the economy is great because of the stock market.
  The party has no teeth, they're not willing to talk about major issues like economic inequality because they too have to bend the knee to the oligarchs. Bernie had the right idea by fundraising on grassroots but the party seems to think they can keep toeing the middle and appeal to the "moderate Democrat" which simply doesn't exist.
  
  This is far far worse than Junior or Trump's first term. Elon Musk has taken control of three important government agencies including the Treasury. People gotta wake up, it's really bad and we're two weeks in.
  
  It's a catastrophe.
  
  Yep!
  
  Nope, respectfully I disagree. It isn't who I am, and it isn't who anyone I associate with is. Have you ever considered that First Past The Post voting is incredibly problematic?
  
  Yeah, FPTP sucks, but pretending "this isn't who we are" is just sticking your head in the sand. If it isn't who you are, you should probably move to a country that better reflects your values.
  
  This is right wing rhetoric.
  'If you don't like it, then leave' is a nationalistic approach that is unhealthy for a country and it's people. It's also inherently ableist as it assumes that anyone who doesn't want to be somewhere has the means to be able to leave easily.
  Pretending an entire nation of people support the presiding leader is also pretty naive and would likely get you flamed if you said it about other hot button countries such as Russia, China, Palestine, Israel, Iran, or any of the multitudes of countries that have problematic leadership.
  
  I notice that people don't blame the citizens of most countries with despotic leaders for their government's bad behavior, but they do blame Americans, assuming that the US is a true democracy. It isn't and never has been. Yet we do have a bit more control than many of those other countries, but it takes massive action by a large majority over a long time, to change anything.
  
  You might be right. Where do you suggest?
  
  Depends on the languages you speak, what you do for work, whether you're moving alone or with family, how much of a culture shock you could take, etc.
  
  Yes, it does. I think I'll stay where I am, thanks. There's plenty of sand for me to stick my head in. Have a great day.
  
  I'm one of the sane Americans and honestly screw this whole, "think of the children" crap. America as a whole voted for Idiocracy by voting in not just Trump but all of these damn moron, spineless Republicans and yeah Americans, all of us, deserve all of this. That's how democracy works unfortunately.
  Honestly, unless you're out there protesting like it's Ferguson every day, you're not doing anything to actively to push back on the insanity so yeah, you deserve it too, just like I do with just working to keep surviving this blossoming dictatorship.
  
  I mean they voted for the cou. So yes it is Americans doing this. And I don't care if they didn't vote for this crowd they didn't show up so yes they voted for this.
  
  Yes. But American citizens need to be the ones to stop the Nazi musk/trump regime. March and strike by the millions. Oust them.
  
  Something something second ammendment.
  We have all let this happen in one way or another, via complacency, but y'all benefit from being a fascist state and informal empire together. Y'all can suffer the costs of it together, too.
  
  Could you explain what you mean by watch out for the little guy?
  
  Yes, of course. My neighbors, friends, and family working 2-3 jobs just to pay rent, and stay fed. If the little guy were a business owner, it's them and a partner and maybe a handful of employees, NOT them and 500+ employees. The VAST majority of business in the US is or at least was businesses with less than 500 employees, a.k.a. the definition of small business. Which even seems big to me. My office is me and my life partner, for example. Does that answer your question? :-)
  
  You mean these small business owners?
  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/small-business-owners-voted-for-trump-they-won-t-get-everything-on-their-wish-list/ar-AA1u7NfD
  Sure seems like they deserve everything they're going to get. FOFA small business owners.
  
  Hmm, interesting point. And by way of clarification, I try to promote the vast majority of businesses with less, usually far less than 100 employees. That 500 thing is from some "business association" or Chamber of Commerce definition. How to differentiate the portion of small business owners, e.g. they guy who sells crafts on etsy, that did vote for Kamala Harris? And really stick it to the citizens (business owners or not) that either abstained, or did vote for this stupid shit show. I'm not a policy guy, and I wish I knew. I'm not sure how we get thru this crap-a-palooza in a sound state of mind and whole of body. But hey, let's at least try.
  From your article: "Small-business owners are a major force behind the U.S. swing vote. Nearly a quarter are registered Democrats and 38% are Republicans, according to the National Small Business Association’s 2024 Politics of Small Business Survey, leaving the rest up for grabs. These business people, like other voters, also change party affiliation, with nearly a quarter switching at least once in the past decade. Ninety percent say they don’t vote for a straight party ticket." They never surveyed me. So I'm the littlest of little guys. I'm registered and voted Dem. Not because I love the Dem party, but because the other party seem ludicris, insane. And because voting 3rd party, or dagnabit not voting at all are both not viable solutions. So I'm the littlest of the little guys, politically.
  Alot of what I'm saying is basically do what one can to support your food coop, your local bike shop, your car mechanic that his his own shop, your friend who makes soap and sells it on Etsy, and so forth. And grow more than you need in your garden, giving it away to your family, friends, others in need.
  
  I'm sure Trump will do that. That's why he was elected right?
  Let's see if one of greatest American businessmen of all time (/s) can protect his citizens from the trade war he started.
- It's a start, but will he even feel a $100 million loss?
  
  Its not about the money
  
  He might not. Maybe Starlink will.
  
  It's not money. It's power.

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