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I’m back! It’s been a while since I’ve been on this site because I’ve found myself under some financial trouble and I’ve been stressed BUT I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about something I love dearly: dihedral groups!

Consider the symmetries of a square:

We can see that there are 4 reflections and 3 rotations, as well as the act of doing nothing at all. Together, we have 8 total symmetries, and in fact, these are all of the possible symmetries. What this means is that if we do one of these symmetric moves and then do another one, we will have not changed the square, and therefore doing these two moves is the same as doing just one of the 8 symmetries on its own. For example, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a 180 degree rotation is the same as doing a 270 degree rotation. Also, doing a 90 degree rotation followed by a reflection across the vertical axis is the same as doing a reflection across a diagonal axis.

So in other words, we can define a function that takes two symmetries of a square as input and which outputs another symmetry. Since standard multiplication is a function taking two numbers and outputting another number, it makes sense to borrow the notation of multiplication for this function. Our symmetry function satisfies a few useful properties:

  • Closure: As explained above, for any two symmetries, the function will spit out another symmetry
  • Identity: There is a symmetry (namely, the “do nothing” symmetry) such that when it is input into the function with another symmetry, the function will always simply output the other symmetry
  • Associativity: For any symmetries a, b, and c, (ab)c = a(bc)
  • Inverses: For every symmetry, there is a symmetry that undoes it. For example, rotating a square by 270 degrees undoes rotating it by 90 degrees, and doing a reflection a second time after doing it once undoes the first reflection

These 4 properties are so important that any set of objects with a function defined on it that satisfies all of these properties has a special name: they’re called groups and they’re really freaking awesome. The symmetries of a square as a group is called D8, since there are 8 total symmetries. Sometimes you might see it called D4, since squares have 4 sides, but I think this convention is a bit silly. In the same way, D6 is the symmetries of an equilateral triangle, D10 is the symmetries of a regular pentagon, and so forth. In general, D2n is the symmetries of a regular n-gon.

Now, one interesting thing is that groups can contain each other. For example, consider an octagon. Since there are squares hidden within the points of octagons, if we pick a square we can see that all of the symmetries of that square are present in the symmetries of of the octagon, so it is possible to throw out all of the other symmetries. What we would be left with is just the symmetries of a square. What this means is that D8 is contained in D16. You can play similar games to show that there are lots of groups contained inside the dihedral groups.

The last thing I want to talk about regarding these things are their subgroup lattices. Oftentimes mathematicians want to picture the internal structure of a group. One of the ways they might do this is by writing down all of the subgroups of a group they’re studying onto a piece of paper, and then connecting any two with a line if one of them is a subgroup of the other that doesn’t have a subgroup between them. The resulting picture is called a subgroup lattice, and I’ve left some dihedral group lattices below because I think they’re pretty.

Anyway this has been gushposting with your host, yewler. Maybe next mega I might talk about more specific details that make these things cool.

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  • Had a bit of a bummer day yesterday (nothing major, just went to town despite my friends cancelling their plans for understandable reasons, and ended up a bit bored and lonely), but I had a dream last night where I was clearly and unambiguously a woman. Most of my dreams involve me in a pre-transition state, so that was very nice and affirming to have.

  • In nursing school and at work we did personality tests, my union paid some organization for their custom 4 colour personality test (which more or less is the DISC model just relabeled). Personality tests, to me, are more about just for fun rather than anything serious.

    I dunno if I've talked about it here but I was the sole Red in a sea of Blue and Greens with a smattering of Yellows. At work, same deal - I am still the only lonely Red. Red is the Doninance in DISC. Strong willed, ambitious, dominant, you know that kind of thing. The feedback I've got from my manager is that I need to practice better delegation and not just take over. Why must I be a Red WHYYYY

  • one of gender-affirming-but-shitty things I do to myself is looking at posts from trans girls living the kind of life I wish I had and letting myself obsess over how jealous I am of them it until it stews into self hatred

    this never happened when I looked at posts from conventionally successful men when I thought I was one of them

  • Was playing some kiwami 2 until my ps4 kept overheating so switched to my ps3 to play some yakuza 4. I was a bit of a weinie by not doing the substories for it when I first beat the game so I'm remedying that now and I think they alright so far. What I been doing is considering these games done when I do the Amon fights which unlock when you do all the substories so it give me some repeatability for them. I really want infinite wealth already but I'm broke so it'll have to wait.

  • Reading This Is How You Lose the Time War and omg it is such a good book, I'll post more thoughts tonight when I'm done (particularly got a lot of thoughts on its themes) but taking a short break so I can eat and I just gotta gush about it a bit

  • as i logged on my bearsite i saw a new tagline! it was a silly one, completely contextless, no way to know what it means. but this time i was there, in the silly thread when it came to be! i get it! I'm chuffed haha, so here for this.

  • I can't believe I made such a big deal about getting an injection

    The whole process finished in like 2 minutes. Although I think part of why I didn't get so worked up today was cause I got annoyed by removing all the air in the syringe. Hate truly is a powerful and useful emotion.

  • I think Yakuza 0 and the kiwami remakes are a good starting point for people but for the OGs like myself they really give you a full on deep kiss on the mouth and hold you as they look you in the eye calling you sexy for understanding all the sly future references

    0 and kiwami onlys will never get it.

  • Went out with an old coworker friend today. We were walking around and browsing some clothes, and I was looking at a blouse and she said "that would look good on you"

    Girls, I've made it ❤️

  • The worst part of transitioning for an adventurer isn't getting the literal breastplate fitted to all your armour, it's the voice training to change your pain grunts from "ugh" to "ugh~ ♥️".

    • Just become a druid and shapeshift into an animal. Like, how many people can tell the difference between a male or a female rat screech?

    • The worst part of transitioning for a superhero is getting the spinal removal surgery so you can do the boobs and butt pose.

      Second worst is having to get used to sticking the vacuum under your clothes.

  • one of the things I'm possibly irrationally happy with myself about is feminizing my sneeze.

    I legitimately get angry if I'm around someone and I almost-sneeze-but-then-don't because I feel robbed of the opportunity to show off that I Sneeze Cute now.

  • Injection nervousness is really hitting me hard. I've taken injections so many times. I don't know what happened for me to start freaking out today. If this is a problem tomorrow, I'll be really behind my schedule.

    At this point the only thing I can think of is trying to find some oral E (I wonder if I cam get it at the same place as oral B). But in 1 day? Might be tough. I don't even know of a place right away that will give me anything (especially without a prescription).

    Probably the only short term fix I have for this problem is to buy some numbing gel.

    • I tried to do IM for a bit and the same thing happened to me. So I went back to oral, but to get good results I’d have to take like 4 or 6 a day or something. So I switched to subq.

      • I do subcutaneous too, it's great.

        That said there's a bit of a learning curve, I've accidentally stuck myself deep enough such that it was effectively IM a few times, do not recommend doing that.

        I was on 6mg a day prior to switching, getting a bottle of like 540+ pills was starting to become ridiculous

      • I'm on subq right now and I don't know if it's because I'm off my year long ultra caffeine addiction or stress or what, but recently my head and my nerves feel all out of wack.

    • You should be able to buy ametop or EMLA at a pharmacy

      But is it the pain that's making you stop? Or just the idea of a needle at all?

      • You should be able to buy ametop or EMLA at a pharmacy

        I like your magic words science girl

        Jokes aside, I'll check what that stuff is

        But is it the pain that's making you stop? Or just the idea of a needle at all?

        The idea of a needle. Like, I've felt much greater pain and had much larger cuts all the time compared to needles. But needles just really give me the ick. It's really manageable when my mental state is good. But when my mental state is not so good, I have a lot of trouble. I've even fainted onto the floor after injecting myself with E once. That isn't too surprising to me, since I faint or get lightheaded every time when my blood is drawn (so does my dad).

        And when my mental state is really bad, I can't even bring myself to push the needle in.

  • The city is planning to update water meters as some cash grab, since if techs deem it too old they'll shut off water until you get a licensed plumber to fix it and the newest houses around here are about 100yo.

    Mine hasn't been updated since at least the 70s and ground is still connected to the main. Biggest concern is ending up without electric or water during the upcoming heatwave and I still have to work around crybaby customers who whine even if I smell of icy hot. All sorts of electrical and plumbing are cobbled up in this house.

    I can stay with family until it gets fixed but another concern is all my family lives 30min away, and with that commute I will be losing money to go into work and I always close late AF, so more local relatives can't help out.

  • it's fun to play with qwen3 by making a nonsense system prompt and then giving it an input that's outside of its scope, and watching the "thinking" (lol) mode just go in circles for ages until it finally outputs something it didn't need to "think" that long for.

  • In one episode of an animated batman, the Joker frets about paying the IRS and not wanting to mess with taxes

    Does he have a social insurance number??? When he files his taxes, is his name Mr The Joker???

    • I’m so sorry you’re feeling bad again and I hope you can get past this rough patch.

      Everyone here loves and cares about you, so if there’s anything you need don’t hesitate to say so.

      Just talking about my own experience here, I don’t think HRT is an automatic cure-all but it did help me at least. I started slowly feeling better after about a month on it. Other things that helped/help me deal with dysphoria are VRChat (where I get to be my cute fem avatar, role playing (like in games or acting out dialog from VN characters), and doing things on my own time like trying out wigs, practicing voice, trying on different clothes, etc. Also just plain escapism works for me a lot of the time, like a book or game with a character I strongly identify with.

    • I've been there, with those same thoughts. It sucks. The thing it was always there burning quietly, so you couldn't have kept going forever without knowing either, it was eating at you slowly. Now you just know about it. I know it feels like you fucked up or you wish it would stop, I do too tbh, but it gets better the more you slowly, surely, move towards your goals and live your life as yourself. It will take time, and the changes (not even talking about hrt here) will be gradual.

      Hang in there, and if your situation is currently too dangerous or unstable its also okay to focus on things other than hrt. But hrt will also work very gradually, and not everyone gets the quick relief from dysphoria.

      I know it seems impossible and overwhelming but remind yourself many have been there and are there with you, you'll be OK if you hang in there!

  • >me yesterday

    "Women in suits are hot"

    >me today

    buying a suit

    • Women in suits are hot, but it's still the last outfit in the world I would choose to wear.

      Hope you're able to find the one that fits perfectly

      • Suits? That's a no for me.

        Cute AF tweed, houndstooth and linen sports coats over dress, skirts, high waisted pants? Amazing

      • It's not actually a full suit just a suit jacket to wear with skirts

        I did though! I posted that after I bought it, I got a nice tan jacket for spring and autumn now~

        It still kinda fucks with my brain that I fit in women's smalls though..

  • i think it's interesting that as I've transitioned I've unsurprisingly become a lot more femme, but I think i've actually grown a bit more masc as time has gone on too? like, I feel like as I've let my feminine side flourish there's this masc side of me that's always kind of existed but was super repressed because I hated gender and myself but it's finally started to bloom a bit as well. I joke with myself saying I'm a binary trans woman but still 7% male and it's weird to feel this small masc side of me actually want to exist rather than me existing 100% as a man out of spite to the universe

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