Traditional Family Values are back on the Menu

The mistake that everyone keeps making is assuming that when they say "traditional family" they mean the "husband, wife, and 2.5 kids" nuclear family. That's not what they want. They are looking at an older tradition. They want slaves and concubines back.
- They want slaves and concubines back.
  IE an actual traditional family, as very well defined in the Old Testament / Tanakh.
  When you get to the New Testament, you end up with the uberconservative push for making divorce illegal citing Jesus himself.
  Matthew 19:3-9
  3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful to divorce one 's wife for any cause?"
  4 He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female,
  5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
  6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
  7 They said to him, "Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?"
  8 He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
  9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
  Notice how the presumption here is that only a man can divorce his wife, not the other way around.
  The rule of Moses as understood by the Pharisee is that a man can serve a woman divorce papers, and that's that.
  What they can all agree on is women are second class citizens and should be subordinate to men.
  Paul is quite famous for not permitting women to speak:
  1 Corinthians 14:34
  the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
  
  9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.
  After my mom divorced my dad, we moved in with her parents because we had no money. The condition was that we had to start going to their extreme, King James Bible is the literal word of god, church. They preached this lesson a lot and it really messed my mom up. Luckily around the time I was 12, and already an atheist, we stopped going.
- Traditional royal family
  
  Including the incest.
- The mistake that everyone makes is thinking that what they say, and where they go on Sunday has anything to do with how they feel and how they vote. They vote in a self serving and short sighted way. Their religion is irrelevant to who they actually are.

this should've been made by someone who has seen a diagram before
- I just want to know who put anonymity bars over the sunglasses!
  
  Yeah. Maybe just don't use pictures of kids AT ALL.

The other guy in the oval office cheated on all three of his wives, and paid off at least one of his mistresses in an attempt to keep her quiet, so...
- These aren't just family values, no sir, these are discount family values! Think of the savings!
  
  Fast food, fast family values. At least he's consistent.

Looks like Elon used a random name generator in a MMORPG to name his kids
- I'm laughing so hard at unnamed, techno, exa and strider.
  
  I see Azure. Where's AWS? Oracle? Alibaba?
  
  Wait. Wait, wait, wait -- are you saying he actually named two of his kids literally the word "unnamed" (as opposed to the names not being publicly known)? 'Cause that's both fucked-up and disturbingly plausible.
  
  Strider's gonna have a rough childhood if any kids around him his age ever play Half Life 2.
  
  Strider was cool in LOTR but I wouldn't name a kid that. Maybe a giraffe or a stick insect.
  
  techno
  strider sounds more normal than XAE, techno
- That might explain the name dispute between him, Grimes, and Zillis.
- It looks like he used a password generator.
- Techno Mecanicus, seriously, WTF

The way his daughter speaks of him makes me think he’s a psychopath. He is emotionless and dead inside, he’s a broken human.
- absolute power (& wealth) corrupts absolutely
  
  Wealth cannot be detangled from power, so yeah, this is dead on.
  We can have democracy or we can have billionaires, we cannot have both
  
  But he doesn't even wield absolute power. The bit he does hold seems to have been enough.
  
  Incorrect. Those that are corrupt desires and seek absolute power & wealth more than an normal person. We have a few people in history who did had absolute power & wealth and uses it to great benefit for his people.

I suddenly realize the reasons why a whole tsar family was killed.
- I know why they did it, because it was the only way to ensure that the tsar dynasty wasn't reinstalled... But killing innocent kids will never sit right with me.
  
  Its not like with Trump where his kids are actually problems themselves. I suspect that some of the younger ones will probably want to disown him too, especially the ones that he's called stupid names.
  
  If you have a look at musks family it seems as if the issue is not a single person.
  But of course morally I agree. Might be a trap, though.

Don't forget muskrat's own dad had 2 kids with his own stepdaughter.
That's some fucked up Woody Allen level of ick.
- Traditional.
  Southern.
  Values.
- What? I'm glad I don't know about all that shit. Makes for a good surprising meme when I browse lemmy.
  
  Yes, the best way to start the morning. Thanks Lemmy.

Please stop letting him name human beings
- Those names would be animal cruelty too
  
  I actually love the name "techno mechanicus". The others are just weird, but I find that one laugh out loud hilarious.
- There's a theory that they are all fake names and not their legal names, although his trans daughter I think legally changed their name so that may be on record, but most aren't.

don't tell me the names are real. I know about the X AE kid but the others, seriously? This is the dumbest possible timeline
- Leave Cletus out of this, he's an honest good hearted intelligent guy compared to musk.
- that's because grimes is also dumb as a rock. so is anyone who willingly marries an unfuckable troglodyte
  
  Idk about unfuckable given that he has 10 more kids than the average Westerner, but I'm 100% behind troglodyte.
- Some of them seem rather sane, but 7 onwards is a shit show.
- it is, the others one are : EXA DARK sidareal musk, TECHNO MECHaNIUS MUSK,

I chuckle every time I am reminded that he named one of his kids Sideræl. In norwegian that would be a slang for Side-junk or side-slop.
Side = side
Ræl = "junk," "trash," "rubbish," or "worthless stuff." It is an informal, somewhat dismissive term used to describe things that are of low quality, broken, or generally useless.
- I think it was supposed to be Sidereal, which refers to astronomical measurements based on stars rather than the sun. But he couldn't even spell it right.
  
  Elon can consider himself proper American now that he thinks Æ can be used as substitute for A, E, or a combination of the two. Same as you sometimes see shitheads use Ø instead of O.
  To those of us who use those letters daily, it's just jarring, as it's a completely different letter with a different sound. It would be like writing Karspleesh and expect the spelling to carry the same pronunciation.

Small edit: since elon is an immigrant-hating immigrant, you should probably refer to the kids as "anchor babies"

It's weird how one can be such an incel yet also a philanderer, but then again, the fact that some are employees suggests a bit of a power dynamic abuse. If an incel rapes someone, they're still an "involuntary celerate"
- People use the word incel to the point of irrelevance. If you're having sex you're not involuntarily celibate.
  Folks online were calling Henry Cavill an incel a while back. If these guys were celibate it would be by choice. If you're trying to criticize them in other ways, why not use the right words?
- A very rich incel.
- I think there was a lot of surrogaces and in vitro fertilizations, I think he's still an incel.
- You could be the most vile, gross, Jabba the hut looking incel out there, but if you’re a billionaire you can have a harem of gorgeous women who will let you Fuck and imepregnate them just because they know they’ll have money and be taken care of for life. I doubt any woman actually is attracted to him, they just want to be set up for life

What kind of mother lets him set those names? Even without knowing who the father is they are going to get bullied at school...
- The kind of mother willing to have a kid with Muskrat
- Grimes.
- One who will do whatever Musk wants for a couple million
- I would let musket do me a few times a month for a few million. Why not? I've one know of one guy who's ever been pregnant. Maybe two? Not with my plumbing. And the fucker can divorce me the next year. My wife approves if she gets to travel. All contingent on not getting murdered during the incoming concentration camp phase.

I don't know much about billionaires, so I just kind of assumed that they had kids with, like, royalty or business family heiresses or A-list actresses. Not with their employees and/or whoever is left at the cocktail party after the A-listers have gone.
- Funny thing is I think a lot of these babies were by surrogacy and in vitro fertilization, I don't think there was actually a lot of sex going on with any of these women.
  That's what I read, I could be wrong
  
  It’s probably why he has lots of kids to compensate for something. Probably to signal that he has sex when he really hasn’t. Ketamine abuse can cause erectile dysfunction and I bet his sperm is immotile
  
  i suspect vivian could be the only one, the one that musk hates.

this dude is a mormon
- also moron
  
  and moon?

Can't tell if these are joke names or real. Since there is that X-AE whatever name, I assume they are real ...
- He's a billionaire drug abuser narcissist who wants 4chan to like him, it would almost be weirder if he was somehow a responsible parent

Imma be really shallow for a minute
But for a billionaire who had all his children artificially, he totally could have paid way hotter women to act like his wife and pretend that it is not about the money.
- I'd think for a man that could buy almost anything, the most valuable things are what you can't get with money.
  But that assumes there's any humanity left in that asshole
  
  I only have one data point because I've only ever personally met one millionaire, and he definitely wasn't the type for introspection.
  I think he had three wives as well, none of them he was currently married to. He cheated on a second wife with his secretary who became his third fir a bit. It must be something to do with the money, at a certain point you just think you can do whatever you want and alienate everyone around you. He was certainly a prick.
- he actually has a eugenics fetish, he wants to populate the earth with his children.

Real pack of twits there… The willing participants of course, not the victims.
- Pretty sure all of his children are through IVF. It's a requirement for him that they be XY chromosomes. The kid he disowned is his only daughter who is trans.

yeah but those women also actively engaged in a relationship with the Worlds Biggest Asshole to the point of having a children with The Worlds Biggest Asshole—good road map for initial big sharp drop rig contraption testers; just sayin.
- actually almost all of his "children"are done through IVF/surrogacy, he has a fetish with breeding so its like incubators for him
  
  This grosses me out the most. He isn't even having romantic relationships with the mothers where a spell of passion ends up with children. No, in a few cases, he literal went up to his own employees offering to pay them to be single mothers for his own demonic ego.

I'm all for dunking on elon, but you really shouldn't have put any of the children's pictures and especially not names in there and left them all as shadows.

Those names CANNOT be real
- 12 and 13 are lucky to not have names.
  
  Oh they have names, they're just unspeakable by human tongue.
  ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
- Yeah! What's going on with the names? Is he trying to punish his kids for existing?

They all were conceived at cochella.

That idiot should be neutered. He's contaminating the gene pool

Man this graphic is tough to read, even as an EPL person
- vivian is the woman that disowned him, because she came out as trans , and you know how musk feels about trans people. grimes also dated chelsea.

I read that techno mechanicus is 2 years old. And after him he had another 4 kids???? All with surrogate mothers I'm guessing?

Should have an hours spent with kids timer
- Too easy: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0...

The first six kids had kind of normal names after the 7th kid, it was a disgrace.

::Fist Bump:: - Nick Cannon, probably

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- Lemmy.world gets slowdowns sometimes.
  
  It's not .world. It's feddit.