God, the reddit discourse on the new dragon show is horrendous
HBO tried to make the line go up by cutting two episodes off the second season in the midst of the writer's strike. Like no exaggeration, the season 2 finale ends in a way that makes it immediately obvious two more episodes were supposed to exist. They were simply truncated along with the all the payoff for many of this season's character arcs and plot lines.
One of the writers even made a statement that an eight episode season wasn't their decision. Unfortunately the news of that must have hit them too late in production to fully accommodate that in the writing.
Except on all the subreddits for this show, the prevailing opinion amongst dipshit redditors is that the writers are cutting book events to make time for LGBTQ asoiaf fanfiction.
While that'd be based if true, it's not. Like wtf? Do these people live in a different universe? Are they watching a different dragon show? Redditors ain't alright, man. These people watch the enshittification of media in real time, and their lack of media literacy results in them going on queerphobic witch hunts and throwing wild assignment of blame at anything but HBO and capitalism.
My dragon show "dungeon meshi" is doing great. Comfy cooking show, interesting characters, well-established world building, diverse, multi-layered characters and escalating stake, done by talented animation studio in close consultation with a caring author who already finished her part of the bargain (the story is finished) and knows exactly how things should be adapted.
Dungeon Meshi (or known as Delicious in Dungeon because I watch it localized) is actually really good and I quite enjoy it. Not vegan friendly by any means but I just accept it as fantasy and with survival tactics considering the circumstances.
Even if it isn't vegan, it has more respect for the concept of "ecosystem" than your average american has for their own food supply. The next season will be unhinged.
I am truly grateful that the cultural monolith that was Gambo Thrones has sort of faded away to the point that I don't have to know much of anything about this particular slop. I truly don't have much to say about it except "this slop isn't known for having satisfactory conclusions or completing story arcs, so are you actually surprised it keeps happening?"
That said, I'm still baffled by one of my chud relative's takes on Gambo Thrones. He bragged about how "mature" his two preteen kids were, boasted about how he'd have Gambo Thrones on, full murderfucking and all, and he bragged the kids didn't care and kept playing with Legos on the carpet. He was one of those "everything is for babies unless it's soaked in blood and has lots of cussing" very mature adult types, 50 going on 15, basically.
That is, until a gay blowjob happened on the show, apparently.
He was full about that, unprompted, during a very awkward holiday visit. He ranted with rage to the point of embarrassing himself in public, all because his kids "could have seen that and it would have fucked up their minds."
TL;DR: Does the new Gambo have gay blowjobs? I sure hope so.
It was a very exhausting and awkward bunch of lunchtime and after-class conversations with faculty, along with endless magazine covers and other media mentions I didn't ask for and didn't want, and what I learned about Gambo Thrones was through osmosis because DAE LE RED WEDDING and DAE LE SHAME were primary and redundant conversation topics that I had nothing to say about except "I don't watch that" which often got responses like "WHY NOT? ARE YOU A PRUDE?" and of course "YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS CLIP, THIS PARTICULAR MURDERFUCKING WILL PULL YOU IN!"
The only close runner up for aggressively proselytizing fandom in the same time period was for Richard and Mortimer, and the overlap between the two fandoms sometimes seemed like a circle.
historical accuracy of a fictional place with arbitrarily decided quasi-medieval historical accuracy that mostly focuses on violence and sexual violence intensifies
Isn't it also a finished book? So anything queer was written by Georgie himself. It's like LotR having non-whites...people are Jackson film casuals where the Nordic aesthetic was a conscious choice by the filmmakers. The books are vague enough Aragorn was Native American in the animated film from the 70s lol.
They did the same shit with The Witcher. Even Star Wars had this happen "Nooooooo stormtroopers can't be black! They're clones!" Luke talks about joining the stormtrooper academy in a New Hope. Stormtroopers being clones was the retcon.
I'm pretty sure it's written with the conceit that it's a historical document, rather than in the style of a traditional novel, so the granularity isn't at a level that necessarily includes secret love affairs, and even some elements that are included could theoretically be character assassination in universe by a biased historian.
Like one character in the book is noted to have died after falling off her horse, and in the show she is murdered on screen by another character.
I believe they've also changed some things (folding two characters into one, making characters more or less influential, etc), which, to be clear, isn't a value judgement, I think that is often a good idea for an adaptation.
so the granularity isn’t at a level that necessarily includes secret love affairs
A lot of Fire & Blood is the story as told by the court jester, who it is heavily implied made up a bunch of raunchy details to make the story more interesting. The show cuts away all of the ambiguity and contradictory details and presents a single "true" version of events for the audience.
Like, it sure is convenient that that one character died falling off of her horse. You could imagine Westeros' historians omitting or not knowing the event depicted in the show.
The Rohirrim speak the irl mercian dialect of Old English. Tolkien was for sure going for Germanic which is close enough. My Black Elf issue in rings of power isn't that everyone isn't white, it's and this is mostly the proto Hobbits and men, elves can be pretty reasonably explained, that it's done kinda at random. Like in an entire town of white dudes there's 3 black charscrers. Where are the other black people then? Do these people have family? Are they from somewhere else either recently or ancestral? Big part of Tolkien non LOTR middle earth stuff has a great deal to do with the movements and mixings of different cultures over a vast span of years and by the second age thousands of years of migrations and cultural exchange has happened and could be reflected in the diversity of the casting. It could be made to blend very well with tolkien's world building. It reflects more on the show being super lazy in that regard pretty much across the board more than anything.
The story is that the Stormtroopers as an organization grew out of the Clone Troopers, but started recruiting normal humans after the Order 66. Not that it really matters.
The showrunners aren't following the book very closely at all. They're just kinda adding their own plotlines, character relationships, characterization, etc, and using "well the book is an unreliable history" as an excuse as if the book didn't give three competing narratives and enough information for a reader to figure out what's probably true and what's definitely not. They've taken it from "here's an unreliable history, puzzle it out" to "this history is unreliable, so let's just write whatever we want."
Also in the final episode
cw sexual violence
There is a really awful scene where a character talks about all the abuse she suffered, and the other character responds by making out with her. This was not in the book, there is nothing like it anywhere in the book, none of the three narratives have it make any sense, and it was in fact an unscripted scene that the actresses just wanted to do.
Haven't watched the show but the book was pretty good and the show ruined some of the most impactful scenes.
Also Philosophy Tube plays a pirate who has been changed to a trans man with a cuckold fetish and gets way too much screentime. It was very confusing.
Also she didn't like the idea of playing a pirate that does horrible things and comes from a society where slavery is the norm...being a bad person. She had the writers make it clear that all those wives are fully consenting when their pirate lord husband pimps them out. Can't have a bad guy be a bad guy.
Edit: oh! And when she's introduced, a character literally asks her if she's a philosopher. Like real on the nose.
The two gay ships people are having a meltdown over don't happen in the book. In one case the relationship between the two characters is very different and both ships likely wouldn't be depicted whether they occurred because the book is written as a history text book, with a biased author pulling from biased sources.
The book is based on is a historical book written years after the events, with contradictory relates. For the war the show is adapting, the main sources are a maester and the queen's buffoon. Also, this second season were something like 20 pages of the book, where only 3 relevant things are mentioned, blood and cheese, the dragon fight in rook nest and the dragon seeds. Basically everything else is made up by the showrunners.
Reddit discourse is always dogshit. My biggest issue is the anti-women ranting over Alicent's actions in the final episode, complete lack of media literacy from the internet public.
Society won't be able to heal until all the joe Rogan podcast dipshits who push all this shit and all the engineers and ceos responsible for promoting their shit all get thrown into a pit
It's the same every time the show Heroes is talked about, how the writers strike "killed" the show. Mfs, the show was ok at best, it didn't survive because they had an overpowered antagonist since the first episode.
Also the Dragon show was pretty good. Fight me if you want.
i know nothing about any of the gambo series besides reading some lore but was surprised to find out Abigail Thorn Philosophytube is in the new series as a secondary character
Material conditions in reality aren't real. Only my personal understanding of ideology is real. I am a MENSA certified genius so you cannot dispute that. Even though me being a MENSA certified genius is a material condition. No, contradictions aren't real either, why do you ask?
Yea I’m deep into Gambo book lore and I love the show. The main Reddit complaints are really dog whistled shit about the black sisters, or the Mysaria kiss. I think the show does a much better job than thrones in actually discussing both the geopolitics of Westeros, and the micro politics of the dynasty.
And the abrupt ending is totally the fault of WB demanding the cuts without rewrites really being allowed due to the strike, if the Gullet only got to happen.