The land isn’t unoccupied. The people who were there before are going to be a constant problem for the settlers because they will always resent being pushed out of their homes.
The settlers have to kill or permanently displace the people who lived in the land they’re trying to settle in order to settle it.
That’s what the process is.
Theyre settlers.
They’re violently displacing and killing the people on the land they want to settle.
Well you can send settlers to an empty desert. You can also send settlers to a sparsely inhabited land and have them get along with the locals. It's not like it's physically impossible.
I see the concept of settler as someone who goes live somewhere where there aren't many people, not a role where conflict is a major part of the thing.
West Bank settlers sent by Israel were already highly questionable, but if they start doing things like this, they're just soldiers with extra steps.
Settler Violence is deliberate, and exploited by the Israeli State to continue ethnic cleansing & Settler Colonialism in the West Bank with plausible deniability
The state takes over land openly, using official methods sanctioned by legal advisors and judges, while the settlers, who are also interested in taking over land to further their agenda, initiate violence against Palestinians for their own reasons. Yet in truth, there is only one track: Settler violence against Palestinians is part of the strategy employed by Israel’s apartheid regime, which seeks to take over more and more West Bank land. The state fully supports and assists these acts of violence, and its agents sometimes participate in them directly. As such, settler violence is a form of government policy, aided and abetted by official state authorities with their active participation.
The combination of state violence and nominally unofficial violence allows Israel to have it both ways: maintain plausible deniability and blame the violence on settlers rather than on the military, the courts or the Civil Administration while advancing Palestinian dispossession. The facts, however, blow plausible deniability out of the water: When the violence occurs with permission and assistance from the Israeli authorities and under its auspices, it is state violence. The settlers are not defying the state; they are doing its bidding.
I'll be antisemitic apparently if I tell this to an Israeli. They've also by now have that firm belief that their genocide was qualitatively worse than other genocides.
That society is degenerate. For real. They need some real bombs falling on their heads.
They think a few murders and bus bombings are equivalent to them leveling cities. They think they already were at war. They think they are already answering with their lives for what their government is doing by fair price.
They need real feedback. A couple of days, maybe a week of bombardment similar to what their state has been doing to Gaza.
It has done wonders to Europe and Germany in particular. This is the only way.
You're gonna have to explain this take. Illegal state-sponsored settlements in the West Bank are absolutely evil. There's nothing weird about describing it that way.
Did you say the same thing about palestinians on oct 7th or do you have some sort of antisemetic double standard where you think it is acceptable to judge all israeli's by the actions of a few, but do not think its acceptable to judge all palestinains based on the actions of a few?
Both sides have a lot of hatred and resentment toward each other. The problem is that the power balance is extremely heavily in favor of Israel, and they are able to exert their will on the Palestinians through force the Palestinians have no answer for.
But yes, killing innocent people is bad whenever it happens, and no, not all Israelis are bad, just the government, military, and settlers. One admittedly horrific massacre does not give Israel license to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, which is precisely what is happening right now.
Although I’d like to correct that they should be condemning the IDF and Isreali settlers, and not all israeli people. Just like you should be condemning Hamas, and not all the palestinian people. (which I’ve seen you’ve incinuated correctly).
Although I would say, based on other comments I’ve come across from you, you are likely a Zionist. Minimising the number of deaths in Gaza, and a lot of whataboutism.
I would say this is closer to the japanese version than the german one, since the riots about 'you are not entitled to rape them, only kill them' and the governent capitulating.
edit: see: the public competitions about which officers could behead the most chinese VS some german POW's vomitting or shouting that it had to be lies when they saw video of the death camps. the rhetoric of 'chopping wood' used by the nearest moral equivalent to a zionist that has ever existed.