Looks like a cities skyline player finally got a job in city planning
Huh, Madison Wisconsin sure looks different than the last time I was there.
Bus stop doesn't get used
"See?! No one wants to use public transit. We should build another lane."
Coming from a city with a working transit system to a city with shitty transit, that has been the defense.
"Why invest resources to something people don't use?" They said to me, as I literally use the thing they don't want to invest in.
🎶Feliz Boulevard🎶
Better explain why pedestrian crossings are stretched so much instead of being on shortest trajectory to other side
I hate shortened crossings. Pedestrian crossings should follow the flow of pedestrians. Bikes shouldn't have to slow down to make sharp turns just to cross the street. There should be crossings that go in a sensible line.
It seems to be a 4-way intersection.
To optimize the intersection for car traffic. Or maybe rather to minimize signal wait times.
If pedestrians could take the shortest path, it would roughly double the size of the intersection in both width and height. Which then requires clearing times on each signal pass to be longer. Which ultimately makes everybody wait longer at the intersection, including pedestrians.
So, that is one possible explanation. I guess you didn't really ask for one, and maybe I should also add that it's just that; an explanation, not a justification.
Had to go on street view for myself. I now have a single screenshot of the bus stop on feliz and the one on crystal, both in the same direction on the same road. Who did this and why??
Fun side note, the crystal stop has a sign that says "public transit gets you LA'd". Amazing
LA bus transit is amazing. It's cheap, regular, the driver regularly waives you through if you don't have the correct change, and if you're disabled, the driver will get out and strap you down himself to ensure you get to where you need to be.
Coming from UK/Europe perspective, the LA bus system seemed a little dirtier or sketchier than the ones I'm accustomed to... but the service was stellar.
Jeez, I feel like I'm getting second-hand asthma just from looking at that photo.
It's like they want you to die.
The google street view photo may be misleading, there's a bus shelter beside the bench. It's not great as it doesn't protect from street noise, but at least provides some shade.
I’m less worried about the sun (a very real concern in LA, but I don’t leave the house without a sun jacket) than I am about the 12 lanes of traffic surrounding it without any kind of barrier. I always see shattered glass leftover from previous wrecks at big intersections like this, it’s not something I really want to be near as a pedestrian if one happens while I’m there.
Los Infeliz bus stop.
Los Tan Enojada Blvd
Hey, I know a pretty similar bus stop in Hamburg, Germany: https://maps.app.goo.gl/SMa5unXew4uAfVtPA
Can confirm, it sucks to wait there. Hard to reach (always tempting to risk your life for catching the bus), noisy, stinky, plus ours has bicyclists zooming through the isle.
It's pretty versatile, no? The bus can come from either diagonal and go in more ways than a normal stop could.
I'm not saying that's good, but I feel like I've seen far worse. Like the ones that are just a pad of cement and a pole with a bus sign. There might be nearby businesses to indicate where people could go when they use the bus, maybe a desire path, but no actual pedestrian infrastructure.
Idk what there is to complained about. They put 4 bus stops at one intersection
It does look miserable but if the bus stop was before the landing then would it not prevent cars trying to take the turn before the island?
I believe car drivers are capable of waiting 15 seconds while vehicle which most likely transports multiple times more passengers dropping/picking those passengers. Car drivers wait hours in traffic jams for themselves, can wait a bit for bunch of people in a bus
@Lysergid @OlPatchy2Eyes Is it a scheduled stop? Having a bus sit there for 5 minutes when it is running fast would really suck. But I'd need a lot more than such a screen shot to know if this is a horrible stop or one that just looks silly.
There is a lot that goes into where stops should optimally be.
