chapotraphouse @hexbear.net FALGSConaut [comrade/them] @hexbear.net 2 mo. ago

All I wanted to do is take a course on the history of the golden age of Islam

I open up my textbook to read chapter one and what do I find? Is this the great replacement theory within the first 10 pages? Sure looks like it!

Also bonus advocating for countering "radical islamist groups" by "military and ideological means"

I haven't gotten a good feel for this prof but we are not off to a good start

Edit: Looks like I pirated the wrong text or something, I found the one my prof wants us to use and it's very different. Not sure why the two editions are so dramatically different but I'm still keeping an eye out for any fash shit

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I'm getting serious 14 words vibes from that last sentence.
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If you decide to flip your desk and demand your professor explain right now why he is presenting nazi propaganda to the class without warning or explanation know that you have my full support. A student has a right to challenge an academic to justify such materials before they accept that the academic should be trusted to instruct them. One need not be an expert to recognize the stench of fascism. Perhaps the professor has good reasons. I had professors assign us many sordid readings because some part of it was valuable. But in this time of genocide and imperial terror you have the right to demand an explanation if you wish to.

Some reading you could check out

the book of contemplation, an old muslim knights memoirs composed for the benefit of Saladin after the first crusade. Author is ibn munqidh

ibn Fadlan's journey to Russia, recounting a diplomats journey as part of an embassy to the bulgars

the muqqadimah, which i've certainly spelled wrong, which is one of the very important early works of history and which originated many important techniques for the writing of history. Author is ibn khaldun

I still have some of my text books but i don't remember much about them and i don't know if they're relevant anymore

the majesty that was islam by watt

islam the straight path by esposito

the classical heritage in islam by rosenthal
- Yo, I have a sociology prof that prompted us to analyze "social media narratives surrounding the Israel-Hamas war, often called the Israel-Palestine war (called that despite the fact that Israel is not fighting the Palestinian authority)"
  
  This is ridiculous too, right? I didn't know how to react so I just chose a different discussion topic for my assignment (I still cited Mark Fisher and talked about things from a Marxist perspective) but I was glad to see a classmate called him out and pointed out that the genocide has been conducted indiscriminately. I think I should probably take the next opportunity to speak up about the genocide apologia and the bias he's showing.
  
  Yeah, that's a ridiculous bad-faith framing of the conflict. If you search through the old news megas there are lots of posts laying out the whole history of zionism going back to the 1880s.
  
  Claiming that israel isn't at war with palestine bc they haven't declared war with PA is either terminal nerd pedantry or the most Westphalia brained person in history. The PA hasn't had legitimacy or much relevance in a long, long time. Hamas is the duly elected government of Gaza.
  
  If you get the chance, let that other student know you support and appreciate what they said.
- I'll hold off on table-flipping for now, it looks like I pirated the wrong book or some weird knock-off text, I found the right one and I haven't encountered any Nazi shit so far. I'm still going to be on my toes but it looks like I just made a mistake in downloading the wrong book
  
  University is a good time for mistakes. : )
  
  May it be possible that you have found an older version of your prof's text, that they had to change later because of this?
To secure the progressive democratic future of the world, tolerant civilised nations must do more racism and imperialist violence.

Look! Someone wrote a mission statement for the west!
- New 14 words dropped
Recommend Blowback to everyone in the class while you can.
There's just something so...grotesque about how these people will say things like "we are the civilised and tolerant ones, which means we must exterminate those different from us by any means necessary." Do words mean anything to these people?
"We must secure the [ʀʙ ʀʙ ⮾ ⮾ Ⓨ] stability of the modernist, secular-democratic and progressive future of the world, [...]"
sounds cool, what's the name of the book that doesn't have the fash shit in it?
- They're both copies of In God's Path by Robert Hoyland, the 2015 edition seems like a fairly normal academic text (so far) while the 2021 PDF I pirated is full on to the extent they barely resemble each other
  
  I wonder what the story is with that.
Islamist groups...will continue unleashing violence and terrorism against innocent men, women and children in the years to come,

Ok I agree that AMAB eggs are innocent but for a man to turn into a child is a promise of some incredible medical wonders.
- for a man to turn into a child is a promise of some incredible medical wonders.
  
  We need communism to happen before anyone could ethically release this tech, because it's going to wind up going directly to the pedos otherwise
[Muslims] may become, according to current demographic trends ... the dominant religious group ... by the middle of this century

Out of context, that much is probably true, globally Islam probably will be the dominant religion in a few decades since on a global scale it is growing faster than Christianity.

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