6mo ago

5th Circuit rules ISP should have terminated Internet users accused of piracy

Music publishing companies notched another court victory against a broadband provider that refused to terminate the accounts of Internet users accused of piracy. In a ruling on Wednesday, the conservative-leaning US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit sided with the big three record labels against Grande Communications, a subsidiary of Astound Broadband.

The appeals court ordered a new trial on damages because it said the $46.8 million award was too high, but affirmed the lower court's finding that Grande is liable for contributory copyright infringement.

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6mo ago

5th Circuit rules ISP should have terminated Internet users accused of piracy

arstechnica.com /tech-policy/2024/10/record-labels-win-again-court-says-isp-must-terminate-users-accused-of-piracy/

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6mo ago

5th Circuit rules ISP should have terminated Internet users accused of piracy

arstechnica.com /tech-policy/2024/10/record-labels-win-again-court-says-isp-must-terminate-users-accused-of-piracy/

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Exactly what law states internet connections should be terminated for users accused of piracy?
And are we going to selectively enforce this against poor people, or are they going to start demanding the trunk lines feeding AI datacenters be cut as well? (I asked rhetorically).
- AI shouldn’t be allowed to touch the internet because it’s basically stealing everything and never giving references which is plagiarism.
- Come on, you don't think an industry that habitually uses automated takedown requests regardless of merit would falsely accuse anyone, do you?
- Might be a good idea to torrent whatever you need before the corpos manage to get some law passed that makes it so that isps will have to terminate users for that.
  
  Need a new internet protocol that doesnt use ISPs
- I second this. Anyone know the code reference?
- Asking the real question.

I suppose this means that if someone tells USPS that a burned DVD of The Bee Movie has been mailed to me, USPS should stop delivering any mail to me?
- That is one way to stop junk mail...
  
  Sign me up!
- Bee
  
  The entire Bee movie in gif form:

Service termination based on accusation alone? What a great legal invention. Im sure it won't ever be abused
- Time to start accusing the judges for shit.
  See how they like it.
  
  The Fifth Circuit is fascist. They don't give a fuck what you accuse them of, cause they have no shame.
  
  Send false notices to the business accounts of the law firms involved in this.

DMCA the fuck out of every media company.
Accuse them of piracy.
Is it true? Who gives a fuck.
Terminate their accounts.
- Also the judges. This way they can’t browse all their CP without fixing their fuck ups
- Exactly my thoughts! Who's the ISP for the RIAA?
  
  Comcast.
- No, you see courts only apply this precedent when it can hurt poor people.
- Well... they do hang out in the public torrents of movies, games, shows, etc.
  That's how they get IP addresses and have their bots send DMCA notices.

5th circuit is pure cancer.
- If they were a real circuit they could withstand 10,000 volts.
- All circuits are bastards.

Cool. Did any AI company pay for all their copywritten material? Surely OpenAI shouldn't have access to the internet anymore.
- Copyrighted.
  (Sorry, pet peeve.)
  
  Took me too long to realise that it does not come from "write", but "right"

That could be a fun kind of ddos attack for a botnet - compromise your competitors' machines and download collective TBs of infringing material, then report it as an anonymous whistleblower!
- actually you dont even have to download shit, just appear on the fucking ip leech list, leech that shit yourself, and then fucking spam them to the ISP and music industry. See how long it takes them to respond lmao

God damn it, right in the middle of me downloading a car.
- I think that's legal if it's a PT Cruiser
  
  That was one of the station cars at one of the TV stations where I worked because the station manager rented one at some conference and decided it was awesome.
  What a piece of shit car.

And that's why internet HAS to be basic human right.

This is some bullshit.

I thought everyone is innocent until proven guilty?
- ISPs aren’t a court of law, and neither are the assholes going after the pirates.
  In fact, the reality is they can’t go after them in a court of law because they don’t have enough evidence for it. Which is exactly why they want to be allowed to go all extra-judicial.
- Did you really?
- I'm working on a decentralised sharing protocol, which means nobody would know what people are doing in the first place (except if they compromise your pc ofc).
  It's in its early stages but has a fully functional implementation.
  You can check it out, how it functions, how to install and use it etc here : https://tenfingers.org
  Any feedback greatly appreciated!

The fifth circuit can die in a fire. It'd be a great preview of hell, too.

Good fuckin luck with that. You're just gonna have people adopting more obfuscated piracy methods.
- At this point it's just the n00bs. Everyone who knows shit about shit isn't going to be caught in one of these dragnets
- Get letter from crapcast about downloading copyrighted material. Next search: 'how to torrent without isp knowing'