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  • Great podcast on the unfiltered version of the Columbus Story:

    https://ourfakehistory.com/index.php/season-8/episode-178-columbus-part-i/

    • It's great to see and hear that people are learning and wanting to learn about this history.

      I'm Indigenous and it has been a lifetime of being always uncomfortable reading about history as if we didn't exist or were ever part of the land or even worth mentioning most of the time.

      There is honour in talking about every part of history ... whether it be good or bad ... because that is what it is 'history'. But it also does honour to the present generations to acknowledge the past because it prepares and conditions future generations to not repeat the mistakes of the past.

      This has been a fun, enlightening and hilarious thread today ... thanks guys ... kitchi-meegwetch doodemuk (it means thanks very much my friends - in Ojibway/Cree)

      plus here's another pic of Nimoy as a Native character (he actually looks like someone I know in this image ..... lol)


      • Ever since was about 10 and I was taken to Mesa Verde in Colorado, I totally started to distrust history as I'd been taught. Before, or was all about American exceptionalism, divine providence, western expansion, etc. I was told about Native Americans as they collided with Americans. Never was I taught about the history that existed long before, like the Ancestral Puebloans that built such amazing things, and had such amazing culture. I still feel guilty sometimes. I've been taking my son to places like that (Mesa Verde, Toas Pueblo, some of the plentiful reservations near Olympic National Park in Washington.

        Bonus picture I took at the entrance to Mesa Verde that I found very powerful:

    • A People's History of the United States is what opened my eyes, quite a few years ago at this point.

  • It is now indigenous people day

    • ..... for those wondering ... I'm Indigenous Canadian and the idea of Columbus day is both completely foreign and silly to me. Why anyone would celebrate a genocidal psychopathic pedophile that treated people like animals to be bought sold and traded is beyond me.

      On the flip side, it's made me look up Native American and Trek related content, which led me to discover a whole bunch of imagery of Leonard Nimoy's early acting career where he portrayed Native American people in many western films and TV shows.

      • Fun fact: Christopher Columbus is not celebrated in Italy or Spain. They want nothing to do with him.

      • The original idea was to celebrate the early explorers as without them there would be no Europeans in North America and thus no US. Then people realized that maybe the explorers were no so nice to the natives. Historically Native Americans were looked down on as they were "uncivilized."

        Basically Columbus day was a product of racist national pride.

      • These photos are wild, I don't think I've seen these before.

        Yeah, today is recognized as "Columbus Day" federally in the U.S., but it's increasingly been referred to as "Indigenous Peoples' Day" for the past few years at the state, city, town levels.

        Possibly linux is right, Columbus Day is a product of racist national pride. It's not as popular as it used to be, thankfully, and it's not something most Americans are particularly proud of. It's definitely going to be officially renamed one day, but it's going to take time (and likely face opposition from racists). Seriously, fuck Columbus, he was a butcher.

  • This is the fourth meme I've seen about Columbus today.

    Did I miss something or is this just coincidence?

    Edit: Didn't realize yesterday was Columbus day 💀

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