Tofu scramble rule

That's what it reminds me of, too

legumes are cheaper and more nutritious than eggs

As someone on a normal diet I have the ability to eat whatever, even though grains and fruit trigger my inflammation and make me horribly sick, I won't die immediately. And anyway, I can raise my own chickens around here luckily.

Vegan is better. Go try and prove me wrong. Try from an ethical standpoint and a economical, and nutritional. Find an angle to argue that plant based diets aren't better for everyone.

Sitting in my chair, understanding that factory farming is propped up with government funding, and raising chickens to lay eggs is a really inefficient way to produce protein. All the space and energy to collect chicken periods and the first step is to throw half the baby chicks in a grinder because they have a dick. I can watch a video of tofu being made and not loose my appetite.

I'm sure that if they look really hard in the store there are cheap bags of dried beans that would go a lot further than eggs even before the price increase.

People facing food insecurity due to egg prices increasing are relying too much on one source of nourishment.

OP wants to claim both compassion and nihilism.

NOOO MY HECKIN ANIMAL EXPLOITATION NOW I HAVE TO PAY $10 FOR A DOZEN STOLEN CHICKEN EGGS :((((((((((

The issue is that for a lot of poor people, eggs were a great and easy way to get proteins.

Vegan diet is absolutely viable for the vast majority of people. However, the access to quality vegan food to all the population isn't there yet.

Food desert are real and at least eggs were easier to get there than dried beans and rice. And that options is getting out of reach for a lot of people.

That's not how the modern American thinks, we're so used to things just being always available in mass quantities, we've all but forgotten shortages happen and life requires problem solving. Look at what happened with the toliet paper thing, you can easily just use/wash a cloth (obviously not ideal, I'd recommend a bidet first and foremost) but your average American would rather rally at Costco and get into a fist fight over their precious rolls because they can't comprehend or cope with adaptation, lol.

Seriously not a bad time to consider vegetarianism or veganism

But eggs are vegetarian. Avoiding meat is easy, but eggs are in a ton of recipes and not all of them work with egg substitutes

You say that like we don't import a fuck ton of our produce from Mexico.

Everything is about to get way more expensive.

Agree.

There is a great push towards this stuff. Mostly trough the meat industry whos products getting shittier by the day.

A good meal is texture + flavor. As long as you give me the texture and flavor I want I couldn't care less how it is accomplished.

And if I have the choice between 2 products who are equal in texture and flavor, I pick the option that caused less suffering in the world.

I'd even argue that higher prices on eggs would make people cram more birds into the same spaces just to produce more eggs and make more money

Don't forget how much US based farms depend on migrant workers.

Cries in avocado.

I was like this in the past, it's just that you've spent your entire life eating the same things and only know how to cook those things (if you can cook at all), so changing feels very intimidating and involves several steps. It's not just buying different things, it's learning how to cook them properly and which ones you like, and getting over the bump of initial slight dislike of most new things which is pretty instinctive.

What we need is to help people learn to cook things and help them ease into trying new foods, ideally this would be family members and friends but specific community groups is good too.

People are creature comforted and they literally don't know how to live without those creature comforts, so instead of considering changing anything in their lives they just double down and do stupid shit to get a hold of those creature comforts. Fucking addicts.

The sad part (and why this meme is way off base) is because odds are prices will go up on all foods because of Trump's insanity.

Keep in mind though, plants are used to feed animals. Everything that increases plant prices will increase animal product prices that much more. Just as oil and gas prices increase all of the above because everything is dependent on fossil fuels still.

[...] the farms that produce a big part of their diet.

Those farms produce the majority of your calories as well, btw.

Seems like you're inferring a lot from a meme...

Just say you love killing innocent animals for pleasurable eating and don't like other people reminding you that you're a monster!

European here. I am watching these prices unfold in pure shock. Here, 10 eggs cost between 1€ and 3€ depending on the type of farming (free range, free run, and organic).

uh yeah 10 bucks for a dozen is pretty fucking horrible, they cost only slightly more than a tenth of that here in sweden.

Eggs were historically a very cheap source of protein and have a very diverse nutrient profile because they are designed to grow an animal from scratch. I recall in 2019 doing the math for protein/dollar and things like chicken breast, whey protein, eggs, and milk came out on top, but that was because eggs were 80 cents per dozen. It’s like if chicken breast went from its 2019 price of 1.99 to $15-20 a pound, or milk for $15 a gallon or whey for $100+ a bag. I used to consistently eat 3 eggs every morning because I was broke and eggs + rice + siracha was like a 50 cent breakfast, now that same breakfast would be approaching 3 dollars.

People are so upset because of the 10x effective price increase, just imagine a 10x in any other price in only 5 years. Rent, education, electricity

Eggs WERE one of the cheapest sources of protein available, so a lot of people depended on them since meat was so expensive. Now even that is taken from us.

I quit eating eggs in late 2018. At the time, a dozen eggs were well south of $2. I don't think prices increased much until COVID hit. So that's ~$2 to ~$10 in five years. Given that eggs and milk are staple foods, I can see why people would be highly concerned.

Yes and yes. I buy them from a farm, they're cheap and delicious. I have eggs for breakfast and I have eggs as a snack in the evening

my regular-ass cold-pressed rapeseed oil that i use for regular-ass frying has both omega 3 and omega 6

The opposite is true, o3/6 exist in balance. If you don’t eat any omega3 your body gets a lot better at converting o6. Vegans get better omega readings than people who eat fish 2-3x a week.

Ground flax in cooking and you’re sorted

There's loads, my best recommendations are algea oil or sea weed, soya, nuts, seeds take your pick.

Freshly ground flax seeds are supposed to be good for that, but I'm way too lazy to do that haha

Instead, you can just get Omega 3 pills, seems like the least hassle 🤷

There usually are vegan vaccine variants if you're privledged enough to be able to access and demand them. It's usually far outside my level of acceptable practicality to do so though, so I get the default version.

Even if eggs go to $24/dozen, then the cost of egg per dose of flu vaccine would be less than a $1. I only get one flu vaccine a year, so still irrelevant. Also alternative methods for flu vaccine exist and are used already.

Not mRNA vaccines (like covid)

Veganism is a philosophy about animal exploitation. Vegans don't even eat honey because it is an animal product. If you eat eggs from a back yard chicken, you are still participating in the exploitation of that animal and feeding systems which further exploit animals. Some detailed further reading:
https://theminimalistvegan.com/backyard-eggs/

So no, a vegan would not do this. Though, what OP said about nomenclature remains true - some people are loose with the terms

e: a word

I agree with what the others said, but I just want to point out that this 'model' vegan isn't nearly as important as you might think. You don't get a prize or hivemind access or whatever for conforming to some exact criteria. It's ultimately just a convenient label to summarize that you've made certain moral choices. Well, and to easily identify products that work well with your choices. But making those choices is very much each person's own adventure.

This has been discussed thousands of times online so I don't feel the need to type out a very long answer.

The pure existence of modern day chickens is animal abuse. The closest known relative to the modern day chicken lays about 10-15 or so eggs a year. Modern day chickens lay eggs daily. It is extremely hard on their body, they have been selectively bred to provide output with no care for their wellbeing.

That being said, if a vegan were to rescue a chicken or something, and it produces eggs, the best you can do is usually feed them back to it. I know that sounds weird but if you feed the chicken back its own eggs, it helps recuperate lost nutrients, and they love it.

You would need to buy the chicken from somewhere. You would only buy the female chicken, because you want the eggs. There would still be male chickens that no one wants, except for reproduction. That would at least be my logic so I'd say no.

It really depends on the type of "vegan". Some people are in it for the dietary benefits and others are in it for the animal welfare. Dietary is actually "plant based" but most people just say vegan, even it it doesn't quite fit.

Preach 👏 I even often (consensually) feed my eggs to vegan friends, because they know I care for and love my ladies.

Just Egg is only expensive because the company is interested in catering to a niche for those high margins. It is made from incredibly cheap ingredients like bean flour so it's annoying that it is so expensive.

Literally just crumble tofu, fry it and add a thickish chickpea flower and water mix at the end. Season with KalaNamak. Done. Price for all of the ingrediets is very low.

Ground beef has been creeping up too, I'm honestly curious at what point does Beyond / "Impossible" brands start breaking even.

Where I am it's currently $5.99 for the equivalent of 10 eggs. I expect that price to jump soon because capitalism.