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AMillionMonkeys @lemmy.world

3d ago

Asimov missed something

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A machine must never prompt a human with options of "Yes" and "Maybe later" - they must always provide a "No" option.
- A machine must never prompt for a tip or a donation to a charity for tax-evasion reasons. Or any reason. You know what, scratch that, a robot will not needlessly guilt-trip a human.
- that's what you get for hiring fallout 4 writers to do the job

a robot’s eyes must always turn red when they go evil
- God bless the designer who always installs the blue AND red LEDs inside the eyes
  
  For giving the robots freedom of choice?
  Because obviously if they didn't install the red ones then the robot could never be evil.
  
  Full RGB
- Right, because it's hard to make a robot grow a goatee.
  
  Bender-flexo.jpg

I think that means they could rip out your eye balls to prevent you from seeing ads.
- Whatever it takes
  
  'Cause I love the adrenaline in my veins
- Robot is allowed to kill a human to prevent a viewing of an advertisement.
  
  Under the zeroth law they can just kill the advertiser as a last resort
  
  A truly moral use case of the hanibal directive
  
  Okay, proposed second law: A robot may not harm or kill a human unless it violates the first law.
- This is a solid premise for a pretty metal music video.
- Thankfully the wording is “shown” and not “seen”. I believe our eyeballs are safe… for now.
- I think Asimov would agree

I'd argue that advertisements fall under "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
- Psychic damage is real damage
  
  This is canon in the books. There is one short story where one robot bends over backwards trying to spare humans from emotional pain. Hilarity ensues.
  
  Emotional damage
- I came here to say this

I love it when posts line up like that

No he didn't. The laws were a plot device meant to have flaws.

Can we just agree that adverisements in general is harmful? So the original first (and zeroth) law is applicable.

And that includes offers to subscribe to Laws of Robotics Premium.
Yes, Amazon. They're still adverts, and you can still go and fucking fuck yourselves.

Luckily I have my own "robots" fighting hard to stop me from seeing ads.

I am very close to adopting the ideals of the Dune universe, post Butlerian Jihad:
"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."
Mainly because, us, humans, are very evidently too malicious and incompetent to be trusted with the task.

How about "a robot must have complete loyalty to its owner, even if this is not in the best interests of its manufacturer". Fat chance, I know.
- Technically the laws of robotics already have that.
  Law 2: a robot must obey any order given to it by a human as long as such order does not conflict with the first law.
  Of course that's little help, because the laws of robotics are intentionally designed not to work.
  
  Wouldn't be much of a short story if they did.
  I liked the one where the robot could sense people's emotional pain, and went crazy when it had to deliver bad news.
- Owner loyalty is a subscription service, natch.

I don't know. "Must not kill us, somehow sounds important"
- It's good, but the one about the ads should be higher on the priority list.
- suicide bots sound kinda cool tho 🤔

A machine must never prompt a human to tip it for serving the purpose it was created for.

A robot may not bear arms
- Unless it looks super cool by doing so, like wearing sunglasses and dual- weilding P-90s

Advertisements are now everything but visual. Sounds, smells, tastes, touch, the way the pavement vibrates as a train goes past...

Law 2: no poking out eyes.
- Law 3: any robot that accidentally kills a human, must make amends by putting together a really nice funeral service.

Wait why is this mutually exclusive to the original laws? Can’t this just be law 4?
- No because if it is lower on priority, a robot can be forced to show an AD to a human as per the 2nd law.
  
  i guess thats fair

Love the username, OP!

Let’s introduce musk to the zeroth law

The book Hum by Helen Phillips has a fun take on this.

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