Reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote banned content
Reddit says the “vast majority” of users won’t be affected.
Perma banned because I wished c-ncer on a pro-Israel troll. Is that an earned ban you guys think?
I got banned when I saw someone say trans kids should be hunted in schools, and I told them I wish they'd get hit with a brick.
I got banned for making fun of Kemi Badenoch when she said autistic people are privileged. I said maybe she's jealous that there are people that know more about trains than her. That was apparently enough to warrant a permanent ban.
Thats be wise you where too much of a pacifist in your response.
Hell, I said all Nazis can go die or kill themselves. Perm banned. Reason why I'm here. Fuck that place.
Samesies. All I said was Nazis should get punched. This is a much better place all around, so fuck spez
I had an old account banned site wide for asking why there was an obvious gay guy on love island. Wasn't even a malicious post I was genuinely curious how he faked his way on there.
Recently I got a temp ban for mentioning chatgpt on the books sub, someone was asking about a large selection of books and which were worth reading. I told him to get chatgpt to sort the list out by most popular. Apparantly even mentioning an llm exists there is a ban.
Kinda get the second one as authors all think chatgpt stealing from them or something but yeah I was talking about sorting a large list
I got shadowbanned after finally actively posting... On r/BuyFromEU... idk man
Shadowbanning in Europe is very hard to pull off without crossing DSA and GDPR rules, which require transparency and informing of the user. Specifically DSA Article 17.
Here's a Dutch case regarding it: https://dsa-observatory.eu/2024/08/06/the-dsas-first-shadow-banning-case/
I'm posting this because if you are European, you should be informed of any shadowban, which makes it a normal ban by definition. If you had to investigate and found out you are shadowbanned, your rights have been violated. I think the best way to get something going is by using a certified out-of-court dispute settlement body, although there's probably a lot of other ways. And if you don't want to return to Reddit anymore, it might be fun to throw some legal shit at their shit platform on your way out.
I'm glad that I don't use Reddit and have no intention on doing so. I remember there was a very talented artist who was wrongfully accused of using AI and banned on the art subreddit. That artist got banned even though receipts were shown to the mods proving the art was not AI, and I guess with this policy, I'd be at risk of being banned from Reddit altogether because I for sure would've upvoted the art if I did have a Reddit account, it was amazing.
Does that mean spez is getting banned for being a mod on r/jailbait?
Does saying "The only good fascist are very dead fascist" counts? What if I add that USA is a fascist country now? Will saying Donald is a pedophile still counts (I got banned for it already lol)? What about saying my favorite sport is nazi punching? And if I add that there's no such thing as "roman salute"?
Is Reddit about to drop a new t-shirt line "Protect fascist's feeling" or something?
I said we used to have a method of dealing with traitors. Got banned for it.
Fucking done with reddits shit.
Same, in January, I said something to the line of traitors used to be publicly hanged, now they're elected and got banned for it. That was the last straw, came here right away and was happy to find the place striving compared to last time I tried it.
You mean if someone said something like, "Trump and Epstein raping a 13-year-old is a matter of court record."?
Yes, this is the exact mentality.
I got banned yesterday for basic "Eat the Rich" quotes with the occasional Luigi or Guillotine animated gif thrown in here or there.
Reddit is cracking down on anticapitalists for sure.
Reddit is a piece of shit.
At this point, getting banned at reddit is a badge of honor.
Uh...the "badge of honor" would have been quitting back during api-gate and not looking back. Getting banned now just means one participated after that time, providing spez with traffic and value, and helped normalize the behaviour that is only just now a bridge too far.
Today, a ban is the "conciliatory prize of not thinking ahead".
3rd party apps closing down I can see from a business point. Makes good business sense. Keep everyone on your shitty app and monetize it. I wasn't for it but understood the greedy fucks behind it.
Now it's just different. Banned for going against Nazis, just means they are in bed with Nazis. That's the last straw.
reddit permabans you for vague interpretations of things they consider "threatening"
its already a thought crime zone.
Lol, how is it even possible to upvote banned content? I mean, is it not deleted if banned?
It means accounts that consistently upvote posts that end up being banned.
The naive take is that this will remove bot/brigade swarms that are collaboratively boosting content that breaks site wide rules. You can derive ulterior motives from this if you want but I'm pretty sure that's the basic premise.
I have no doubt this will be leveraged by the far-right to sow more discord. They already have a history of raiding subreddits with false flag attacks to get them sanctioned until it escalates into full blown subreddit ban. This is all but formalizing the mechanism.
I think the real implication of the system is that Reddit will also start banning you for down-voting posts too.
Banned after you upvote it
See something that’s pro-Luigi? That’s banned content
Pro-lemmy? That’s banned content
Upvoted a post about hypothetically killing a Republican? That’s banned content
Etc
This type of behavior is never tolerate on Reddit. You disagree with a Redditor, straight to ban. No trial, no nothing. There's no journalists. We'll have a special subreddit for journallists. Under represent a Republican, believe it or not ban. Over represent a Democrat, also ban. Reddit has the best users on the internet.
They probably did this specifically because people were upvoting our favorite plumber.
Basically declaring that they don't allow free speech.
"Hey, you have been liking things we disagree with and we need an echo chamber here, align with us or fuck off. Sincerely, the money hungry bitches of the internet! Also heil daddy musk!"
Of course they don’t. They banned me 3 years ago for saying that if you have the chance, you should always punch a Nazi.
Excuse me? If someone says they want a genocide you have to wait until they take over, only then are you allowed to support violence.
I'm against violence, I think that reasonable and even somewhat unreasonable people should be talked with. But if someone says "fuck you I will kill you" you should have the right to punch them, it is the same as self defence, because next time they will kill you.
They permabanned two of my accounts during the election last year, just because I said I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot. She’s a warmonger who’s called for violence against millions of innocent people. Not gonna clutch my pearls when anyone (even Trump) threatens her.
Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.
It's a privately owned platform. You never have an assurance of free speech on any of those, and on Reddit, the rot set in years ago.
hypothetically speaking, if someone blew up their office HQ, that would send a powerful message. of course, if you have the balls to do that, there are some other offices that would probably be much better targets.
To be clear, they're talking about banning right wing people. Reddit is one of the most liberal platforms you will find.
You can't even talk economics on Reddit without being downvoted to fuck, or banned.
I am a centrist, and I routinely had posts removed and got banned from communities for saying things from actual textbooks taught currently in universities.
No one is attacking the free speech of the left unless it's radical and advocating for physical harm.
Incorrect. I got banned yesterday for "Eat the Rich" and Luigi favoritism. I believe the post in question (you never know with a Reddit ban because they dont show you) was responding to someone's post that mentioned the French Revolution with a Guillotine gif and "Git-r-Done".
Yea, apparently I was plotting murder or something by doing that.
paywall it, have bot create content, ban all humans.
reddit is the internet of things.
I once got banned for "vote brigading" on Reddit because I upvoted a crosspost that was deleted later, so this comes as no surprise. They have been monitoring upvotes and downvotes since forever.
Wtf is “vote brigading”?
When one community goes in mass to affect the votes in another. E.g someone is doing a poll/vote intended to be private or limited to a certain group/community, and you link that to from somewhere else with the hope, or sometimes direct instructions to go vote on it in a certain way.
That's why reddit has cross-posts and the np (no participation, disables voting in the linked content) subdomain that try to keep the votes separated.
I got perma banned after i joined NAFO as a mod 2 bannes for petty reasons and then the third and final ban. Always waited for the other bans to time out
Nobody elected the mods or the admins. And the management has shown itself to be, at least, MAGA-adjacent.
Its so obvious Reddit is just swarming with bot users. Not sure why most users haven't just come to Lemmy already.
“reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies”
There, FTFY
Yes, this is exactly what it is. A call for violence against liberals? No worries. A statement that violence may be the only option left to fight a government controlled by billionaires? Banned.
after what they saw with luigi, and trying to suppress all news about it
They are desperay obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.
Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.
One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.
Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.
So let's not pretend that it's only big bad reddit doing this.
Yes, but that is like being banned on a specific Reddit. You didnt follow the rules. Reddit will ban you from the entire platform.
Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.
Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.
if you block an instance, it doesn't block the users or their posts on other instances
Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to not automatically have every comment flagged.
People aren't stuck to the policies of instances they don't agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.
Its decentalised nature doesn't get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.
if someone does that post it in yepowertrippinbastards and make a new sub on a different instance, id join, ppl can be made aware here
I feel like there's a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.
A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.
Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.
So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.
There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.
at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself. Though if majority of some community decides to just stick with some awful group, its quite bad for the minority that doesnt like the awfullness. But at least that is problem of our own making instead of what something some rich asshole decided and thus we can solve it ourselves too if we really want to. There is no way to unshittify reddit ever.
It's way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it's trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.
Which I don't have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It's better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it's truly useless, then nobody would use it
Discovery is shit.
It had its moments, but everytime id start to like it theyd pull some shit that south park would make fun of
cant believe that show went on five seasons, and it got worst every season too, and the obvious objective kurtzman was evident by season 4(female leads were the only sex left on the cast), the only likable characther, was michelle yeohs performance(you can see the acting is better than the others). Picard also was like that(the show couldve been good if done right, but picard(patrick stewart) seemed too low energy for the show.
Never seen but just cause I am in edgy mood today: discovery is utter garbage. They should pay hefty health insurance to anyone who has seen it to cover therapy costs and eye surgery.
It’s so garbage that the dump trucks drivers get confused and arrive at people living rooms if they turn it on.
The only fitting spot for it is inside the latrine but wash it out as carefully after putting this shitty thing down the drain as if it was an especially nasty hangover poop
That was quite pleasurable to write
It’s enough to just make new account every couple months
It’s a good practice anyway. Fresh start every month feels good. Privacy is much better this way on such transparent site as Lemmy. You reset any mutes/bans/fame you might have acquired. It’s win-win
+It’s not like Lemmy has some kind of insane profile customisation fluff or account bound rewards
Also remember to have a unique username for each site for best doxx protection. I use this Osint site sometimes for lulz and there are people who have same PayPal id (with real name shown) as their Lemmy account name lol. Lemmy may be tame but if you browse any deep chan sites opsec is of paramount and admins are hostile actors deep down there too that WILL post your data. Here I kinda trust admins just a little so that accidental true IP reveal seems like no big deal.
However one day you may sign up to the wrong instance or instance may change hands and someone may post your data to some chan like alt right pit. This is a danger of entrusting your account to small private operators that are complete strangers with unknown motivations
Never ever use your true email on Lemmy
See my other comment. That is not really the solution since you will simply get banned again after a while, depending on how much you interact there. Unless admin/moderation changes, making a new account just gives you a bit of extra time using those communities.
Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it's important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.
The motives behind the actions of these groups are vastly different though. A corporation silencing anti-establishment speech is not equivalent to lemmy moderators abusing authority in their micro-feifdoms. Still frustrating of course but the reasons and effects are quite different
True, can't argue with that. I am maybe a bit too pragmatic when I say, I don't care about the difference because the outcome for me as a user is the same.
gross, even STD is being defended here, who is paying for these shills. nutrek is such a badly written/show franchise right now.
Does this happen on lemmy.world?
Citizen, you have been found guilty of wrong think!
Please report for reeducation
Thought police will be dispatched.
Just keep in mind: your upvotes on Lemmy are visible to anybody who runs a Lemmy instance.
God help us if Elon Musk figures out how to run one.
ETA: I mention this because the current government wants to find anyone who does this.
The [unelected president] moaned on his platform that some Reddit users on the subreddit r/WhitePeopleTwitter had broken the law after they allegedly revealed the identities of his so-called DOGE goon squad.
I'm probably ending up in a concentration camp anyways, might as well vent while I can... 🙃
I will save him the effort. I happily upvote things that contain the words Luigi and Elon.
Because that word combination just makes sense.
Or just open the thread on an mbin instance. Here's everyone that upvoted this thread.
Edit: Downvotes (reduces) are less exposed, but as you said, someone can just run a fedi instance that exposes them to everyone.
He can see me upvote people wanting to kill him.
You just need to make a new account every couple of months
Though you cannot see votes coming from a blocked instance. (If your instance ever blocked another instance. Not valid for self hosted.)
This is actually what got me to swap as it reminded me some content will be banned, and so the social media I've had for over a decade and thought was going to be the only classic site to retain freedom of speech and expression had proven itself that they will not be afraid to start taking baby steps towards controlling and censoring media. And in the contents section of this post was a person spreading the news of this alternative. So here I am.
if that is your primary motivation, i have bad news for you... you might have to move on. here you will get bans for downvoting "the wrong" comment or post as well.
Dafuq? For just a vote?
Everybody upvote Luigi content! Get banned! Leave reddit! Reddit crumbles! Fuck reddit! Go Luigi! Lemmy grows! Centralized social media dies! I eat a burrito. That last one wasn't really on topic, but it's happening anyways! I'm hungry.
Already got permabanned for saying he was justified, I like it better here anyway
Same here.
I got banned but their site is so shit the links to the message you got banned for never work. Been banned/warned enough times it's not a one off either.
Burrito pilled Lemmy maxing
I've been banned twice in the past 30 days.
5 of my accts were banned last month, all at once. one got temp suspended, and a triggered a sitewide ban for the others for some "reason. theres no reason to ban all others when it was just temp suspended. but they went extra out of thier way(any old and new accts that have years of seperation between a subreddit ban(if they dint get banned immediately after getting sub banned) they banned accounts.
ex, i had 2 unused accts 5+years, and 1 recent temp suspension(then they look at other accts you were per banned from a subreddit in, and banned all of them). i had also a couple of unused throwaways that i started using from years ago(last month), and a semi-new acct that i use just in case of a ban that i dint use for 90days. and then 1 acct strictly used for 1 subreddit.
only 1 survived but its still flagged by reddit, but have no ban on it right now. creating mroe than 1 acct just puts people at risk of getting banned.
i pointed out the censoring of luigi news in dec, and people actually believed that wasnt happening, and having all that trump rage post slop thats been posting in order to astroturf luigi news.
I agree. And now want to be your friend.
I remember Reddit. I used to like it there.
John Spartan, you are fined one credit for violating the upvote morality statute.
Don't forget to leave bad review of reddit app and encourage others to move to lemmy in the review.
Note that you actually need to review the app itself, not reddit. When I left a negative review about the whole reddit API mess, the review was removed and I was barred from leaving more reviews
wow thanks for that, adjust my bad reviews.
Well that's just straight up fucking bonkers.
Any more bonkers than anything else on Reddit since the exodus? Lol
not surprising, on another site/forum where reddit users got banned for upvoting in attempt to mimic human activity on reddit to promote thier of accts later down the line, thats whats been happening. they are using some technical tricks trying to get around these bans, but reddit is quickly closing those gaps, thats why thier bans have been so aggressive lately. they overmoderate, and overbanned recently.
Fuck reddit.
We should streal r/place and do it yearly
I guess it will just be full of Fuck Spez and Fuck [(un)elected president]
Yeah. Except for some niche subs I haven't miss it at all. And thanks to Privacy Redirect add-on, I haven't visited Reddit itself for a long time. Since it still has some useful info that floods the search engines.
I hope lemmy servers are ready for another population boom.
Anyone that's stuck with reddit this long probably thinks this sort of thing is a good idea.
Reddit will now issue warnings to users who “upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies” within “a certain timeframe,” starting first with violent content, the company announced on Wednesday.
Hmm. What does this pertain to?
kagis
https://www.theverge.com/news/606904/reddit-rules-bans-violence-doxing-elon-musk-doge
Reddit has seen an increase in rule-breaking posts across “several communities,” and it has issued a temporary ban on one that featured users calling for violence against people who work for the Elon Musk-led Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
That community, r/WhitePeopleTwitter, was given a 72-hour ban on Tuesday, as reported by Engadget. Screenshots shared on X show multiple examples of the threatening posts. Musk later reposted the screenshots, claiming that the users have “broken the law.”
In a note on the subreddit, Reddit says it was banned “due to a prevalence of violent content” and that “inciting and glorifying violence or doxing” violate Reddit’s rules. An unnamed Reddit admin said the ban was meant to be a “cooling-off period” for the community.
Reddit also gave a full ban to a subreddit called r/IsElonDeadYet for violating rules “against posting violent content.” The unnamed admin said Reddit is taking steps “to ensure all communities can provide a safe environment for healthy conversation” in a post on r/RedditSafety.
Ah.
Ok but if someone was to Luigi Elon that would be based. Or Elon can follow his leader and end it in a bunker. Don't overly care which way.
Geez, I sure hope someone starts a fediverse version of r/IsElonDeadYet right away!
I don't know how to do proper links, but wanted to let you know that one does already exist.
is that sub even unbanned, i havnt seen it for weeks. right after whitepeopletwitter was banned, they started another huge ban wave that continued into FEB. definitely silencing all anti-conservative sentiment, the "progressives" posts that are allowed, get AstroTurf by trolls.
That's what reddit is now, a place for people to vent, and have them cattled up if they become too much of a nuisance.
its basically X and truth social posts without going to X. and mix in with some ragebaiting articles from non-reputable sources. you also have to be careful on subs like pics, news, funny, askreddit,ask for the same reasons. why are people ranting on reddit about X and truth social, when you are reposting it.
Thank God I'm not on reddit anymore.
Reddit being the go to place for federal workers to explain what is happening on the fednews sub given reddit shadow banning new accounts and anti VPN stance is rather ironic with federal workers hiding their names and using stuff like signal out of fear of what the administration might do to them.
Even proxies are not safe, only the more sophisticated ones usually evade reddits detection for a while.
Same shit happens here and you know if. Anyone with any user count is heavily moderating violence.
THOUGHT CRIME THOUGHT CRIME THOUGHT CRIME
Is this after it is banned or before it is banned? Either way, seems ridiculous
i heard peoples new accts get banned very quickly after giving "upvotes".
They mean content that violates the terms of service.
F*ck those Reddit guys. Why is anyone still at that corporate swamp ?
Social media should never be corporate, ever. Fuck reddit, fuck Meta, fuck LinkedIn, and all the rest.
Except Tom from Myspace, he's cool.
Tom from MySpace taking the money and enjoying life away from the limelight instead of seeking more wealth and power seems more along the lines of what most people fantasize about when it comes to what they'd do if they were rich. All the other rich fucks actively go out of their way to make as many people as miserable as possible.
He was all of our friend and we left him behind
We're sorry Tom, we didn't think about what we were doing
Because the Denver sub here is a ghost town
I suddenly have an urge to upvote banned content. Talk about being insecure. That post was soon followed up by another of the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" sort.
something more ridiculous is getting banned for reporting someone obviously for one of the rule violation. the MOD can choose when they are in the mood, and ban you if they dont like you reporting someone.
Consider r/redditseppuku
Where is reddit announcing this???
Edit, apparently reddit security. Weird verge didn't put that in
twitter bluesky (twitter 2.0) reddit (twitter 3.0)
bluesky i heard , propaganda is starting to infiltrate that app. time to will tell if it enshittifies.
