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65? What Utopian country is that?
- In Sweden it's 62-65.
  
  In Finland it's 65-68, however retirement system is likely to collapse before my actual retirement age, so I "retired" last summer at 28.

65? boy have you been out of the loop.

65???
Look at Richie McMoneybags over here living in his Socialist utopia where he doesn't have to keep working until he keels over dead on the clock.

Don't worry, we're working on making the earth look WAY shittier so you can work your 9-5 without worrying about missing out on anything.

Humans: "I love nature."
Also Humans: "Let's live and work in concrete boxes stacked into the sky!"
- We're working on 7-8billion people on this tiny little rock. We all need to be living in dense urban setups. This entitlement most of us have is ridiculous. We are straight up ruining this planet with our endless suburbs and desire to own a chunk of wilderness. As if our own enjoyment and personal appreciation is a virtue worth the destruction we wreak with our presence.
  Al Gore said it best, it's an inconvenient truth.
  
  Just because it's the most efficient way for all of us to live doesn't mean it's good for us. There are too many humans for this planet to support. We need to reduce the population ethically. Stop having kids.

Corporations have figured out how to make indentured servitude look good and reasonable with your credit card debt, taxes you can’t evade like they can, bills and healthcare “benefits” added to your permanent and relentless tab alongside meager time off so the C suites can fly on private jets, lobby against your livelihood and hope you are none the wiser bc most ppl are.

The purpose of life is to sit in a cubicle and work to destroy this for the sake of shareholder profits. It's a very efficient system
- Sacrifice more time on this planet to the global suicide machine, so you can buy toys
  
  Ooo! I like toys

People used to have more free time. But today we have graphics cards.
- I don't know that many people who can afford a graphics card anymore though.

Until 65? Good luck with that.
- Yup.
  Mom just retired at 70. On her feet working for society for 50 years. Now she hobbles around home with the help of a walker. She'll spend the last 5-10 years of her life hanging out at home, with her only trips being to the doctor's office.
  Because this is all a scam to burn the lives of average people so the wealthy can live better than any kings from antiquity ever did.
  And our fates will be the same, or worse, if we don't eat these motherfuckers.
  
  This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't want to live that long. Whenever the time feels right, I want to "retire" with whatever savings I might have, and ride it out until going out on my own terms. When that time feels right, I don't know, but it'll come.
- 67 for most now until they increase it again or worse, and dangling the extras if you stay until 70.
  Many won't be able to go to places like this at that point, neither physically or financially, and it might even be gone due to climate. I can think of many fixes to this system, but none work because they would go against the way things work, and the machine must keep rolling.
- Not suicidal, but if I have to work much past that I'll consider the exit bag.
- Yeah, that nice greenery has another 15, 20 at tops.

This beautiful landscape is missing a Walmart with a 600 car parking lot.
- The worst part is that parking lot is probably mandatory per city regulations. We should abolish parking mandates country wide! (and you can help too, see https://parkingreform.org/)

I mean, there are ways to go and work there instead.
- Not as many as there used to be.
  
  No but if it's that important to you, go and apply. Become a park ranger, become a forester. The power is yours.

9-5? More like 8-5 at a minimum wherever I've been at.
- 9-5 is a dream.
  Doing the bare minimum of responsibilities/hygiene my weekdays are 7am-630pm so once I'm settled I get maybe 2-3 hours to eat and do something fun. Assuming there isn't anything I need to do around the house.
  Also those leisure hours are "fun" while I mentally prepare for the next day's beatings.
  Saturday is a burner day to recover, Sunday is all chores and errands to get ready for the next 5 days.
  It sure is grim when I type all that out.
  
  Sounds horrible. My day is wake up at 7, have breakfast, work from 8.20 or so, stop working at 15.30 or so (depends on my energy and what I decide to do).
  I sleep at 22.30 so there are lots of hours to do what I want.
  This is a very typical life for IT workers where I live (western Europe, not USA).
- Don't forget getting ready for work and commuting.

Yes. So your boss can enjoy the view.
You on the other hand can get fucked asshole.
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- That's pretty much the synopsis of the Yellowstone tv show.

Looks like glacier national Park

There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's life in the face of work that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. I was crazy and could be not working. All i had to do was ask; and as soon as i did, i would no longer be crazy and would have to work more. I would be crazy to work more and sane if i didn't, but if i was sane i had to work. If i work i was crazy and didn't have to; but if i didn't want to i was sane and had to.

Don't forget your copious amounts of insect repellent.
- You won't need that anymore as insects have been in a steady decline
- Just find any thing that smells like mint or citrus and you'll be fine.
  
  I live in Jackson Hole, Wyoming and spend a lot of time in the summer camping in and around our national parks (Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Often, the only thing that will do the trick is taking a bath in deet.

yes, instead of scrounging for berries when you're 75 and dying of an infected wound from when you fell over on that mountain
- What culture sent wounded elders out to forage for berries?
  
  do you see any other houses out there? My man's willing to forgo work (not even just capitalist work for a bastard, just work) to be out there in the wilderness.
  Good luck with the bears!
- Oh boi 🤦‍♂️

I'm very anti-work, but one night in that environment with no shelter and food and I'd be dreaming of an office space. That being said, there is definitely a better world somewhere between working 50-80hours a week and sleeping outside with no shelter or food.
- I don't think the post is implying a desire to live in nature, but rather expressing the inability to ever visit because of work
  
  Yeah that's what I gathered as well.
- You're comparing what even our ancestors before sapiens had against the modern world. How about Babylon? Or the native Americans that so many "civilized" Americans ran off into the woods to join. Survival of the fittest was absolutely a thing sure, but at the same time, look at people's lives now, look at healthy people's lives in Brazil's favella, Gaza, Sudan, war zone or not. I live in the wonderful capital of Scotland yet there are people on the edges who have lives worse than a 3000bc person.
  
  Yeah that's kinda my point.
- Why wouldn't you have shelter or food? Emergency shelter takes an hour to build if you've never done that before and as long as you can tie a knot and find both woods and stone you can have a reasonably durable shelter in a week.
  Food is even easier as long as you did literally any outdoors skills as a kid. While the picture suggests a landscape a bit north and a bit alpine, fish, berries, root vegetables and/or tree nuts will be available to you all year.
  Take a survival and foraging course. A couple weekends of education will save your life when capitalism inevitably collapses.
  
  I have taken a foraging course! My wife and I actually forage a small amount. But I've never taken a survival course. I'll just freeze to death and I'm ok with that.