Eurovision: Israel's result prompts questions over voting
Eurovision: Israel's result prompts questions over voting
www.bbc.co.uk
Eurovision: Israel's result prompts questions over voting
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/30155120
33 comments
-
I hope my country stops participating in Eurovision. There's no saving it.
-
A lot of fascists in each country voting in unison for Israel while non-fascists votes got split up between all the other participants.
-
Was Elon Musk and/or Starlink involved?
-
Ban Russia from everything, but obviously Israel is a "special case" where the rules of humanity has been suspended so they may do unto others, what was done to them.
-
If Eurovision is non-political, invite Russia back to participate.
No fucking chance. The hypocrisy is astounding. Butchering innocent people is okay when the perpetrator is friendly to the west.
-
Well, 11 out of 37 total Eurovision participants are under threat of direct russian attack in the future, two of which already attacked and under occupation i.e. Georgia and Ukraine, so you'd ignore that at your own risk. Most eurovision countries have greater (urgent) self-interest in grounding russia before doing the same with israel, but I wouldn't say it is impossible, especially as genocide bibi starts to blame everyone for every stupid thing he does and diplomatic relations deteriorate.
-
That's right, you're making a point. Now, though, people in the comments will explain to you why you're wrong...
-
It's technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control. The russian broadcasters were not kicked out for the russian invasion of Ukraine, but for being state controlled. They were accused of this for a long time and the invasion was the final straw.
-
-
MoroccanOil is main sponsor of Eurovision, and it is Israeli company.
It's all about he money, babyy
-
How much money an obscure cosmetics company (never heard before today, from the name I assumed it was something like Saudi Aramco) is paying that they can't find another sponsor that pays the same or even more?
-
They have $750M revenue, definitely they can spend tens of millions in advertising .
Edit: tried to also get some info how much money EBU (owner of Eurovision) does. Seems that they don't make them public any more, which is bit sus. 2021 was last that I found and they made around $400M, and "other revenue" were I assume advertisement deals are was $50M.
-
I wouldn't call them obscure. Their hair products are very well known. Hoping they aren't as popular anymore, but I don't have that kind of trust in people...
-
-
-
Lol, just now? Eurovision has been political charade the entire fucking time. It's not "best artist wins" it's friend countries voting for eachother.
-
When countries vote for their neighbour, that is usually not enough to change the end result. The most popular song usually still wins. But Israel is assembling political votes all across Europe. Only a few percent of the voters need to be rallied to completely overtake the public votes. Also considering that Israel supporters are motivated to vote 20 times, people voting for their favorite song will likely only vote a few times, if at all.
Yes, Eurovision has always been political to some degree, but it hasn't really swayed the results this much ever before.
-
Being a popularity contest is not a problem. It’s always been like that, it’s “whatever”. Like it, don’t like. Doesn’t matter.
But Israel manipulating votes to “artwash” genocide is a whole different bag of cats, and very wrong.
-
Agreed. It’s disgusting.
-
-
Its gotten worse for every year
-
-
Bye losers, some/most of the israelis citizens don't even stand up against genocide by their own leader, **** off then
-
The reason we don’t have a Western Hemisphere version is because it would be too much to watch everyone wash Drake in Spanish, French, Navajo, Portuguese, various indigenous languages, etc. Give that man some time to reconsider his decisions. Imagine getting roasted by one of the last speakers of an endangered Mayan dialect. That’s too much. And DJ Mustard has a busy schedule. He can’t make beats for every culture.
33 comments