TIL Disney killed a bunch of puppies making "Snow Buddies" and weren't allowed to use the "no animals were harmed" claim
TIL Disney killed a bunch of puppies making "Snow Buddies" and weren't allowed to use the "no animals were harmed" claim
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Well, I could have gone my whole life not knowing this. :(
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Go watch Milo and Otis again. Holy shit. They through a fucking kitten off a cliff.
After doing some wtf research, the thing was filmed in China. Those poor kittens and puppies.
*Threw
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/animals-abused-milo-and-otis/
That was a rumor, and has never been verified despite decades of discussion and many attempts to prove or disprove it. Also, it was filmed in Japan, not China.
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Was just about to mention milo and Otis. I loved that movie as a kid. Felt pretty bad rediscovering it as an adult.
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fighting bears and shit
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"here. Get bit by this lobster"
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I loved that movie growing up and had my own copy. And then as an adult I learnt about that dark, dark history.
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Here comes the dog, strong and brave, WOOF!
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oof, right in the childhood
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Oh shit, that's fucking CHATRAN, I loved that as a kid :(
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no link to source or actual text
pointlessly breaking the web & accessibilityDoes OP know about this alternative to images of text called text? 🤦
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discovered that the lemming scene was actually filmed at the Bow River near Canmore, Alberta, and further that the same small group of lemmings was transported to the location, jostled on turntables, and repeatedly shoved off a cliff to imply mass suicide.
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how big was the cliff? did they get hurt or die or was it even more faked?
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the same small group of lemmings was transported to the location, jostled on turntables, and repeatedly shoved off a cliff to imply mass suicide
That Wikipedia quote implies it wasn't deadly, but checking the end line citations, their reference calls it a "mass animal killing made to look like natural suicide" and makes no mention of using the same group multiple times.
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great game back in the day though btw. we need another version. maybe with a political bent
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Fixed link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wilderness_(film)#Controversy
Boy, markdown + deep links is not a good combination.
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I was going to say that's still better than the Lemmy scene.
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No, animals were harmed in the making of this film.
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This is probably the best use of this meme I've ever seen. Beautiful.
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Parvovirus is a puppy owners worst nightmare. It's kind of puppy ebola but super contagious and high mortality rate.
Typically puppy owners never accept a puppy younger than 8 weeks without their first vaccination. And don't let them go out in places exposed to other unknown dogs until after the second vaccination at 16 weeks. So those early weeks should be spent with other vaccinated puppies to socialise them. And if you are going out, carry them or put them in a cart, or take them places you know no sick dogs have been within a year.
Yet another reason why raising puppies is so much harder than people think.
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Yeah, parvo specifically attacks multiplying cells. It’s not super bad for fully grown dogs, which only multiply cells to maintain a baseline. But for puppies that are actively growing, it basically causes them to fall apart at the seams. Their bone marrow and intestinal lining basically turns to mush, since they’re almost entirely made of multiplying cells.
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In a movie from 2008, so it wasn't that long ago. You'd think they would have known better by then. Another reminder to boycott Disney.
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Known better? Probably.
Cared better? Absolutely not.
Imagine the caliber of person it takes to neglect a golden retriever to death.
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I have never heard of this movie or the whole franchise (did some searching) before. It's not even something I have seen anything about and wasn't interested, I've literally never seen or heard anything about any of this. But I'm not surprised, nothing as big as Disney exists without many skeletons in the closet. Haven't given them any money since I was a teenager, and that won't ever change.
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If you had a kid at the time you'd know about it.
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Werner Herzog boiled 11000 living rats in ink for Nosferatu.
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Dutch behavioral biologist Maarten 't Hart, hired by Herzog for his expertise with laboratory rats, revealed that, after witnessing the inhumane way in which the rats were treated, he no longer wished to cooperate. Apart from traveling conditions that were so poor that the rats, imported from Hungary, had started to eat each other upon arrival in the Netherlands, Herzog insisted the plain white rats be dyed gray. To do so, according to 't Hart, the cages containing the rats needed to be submerged in boiling water for several seconds, causing another half of them to die. The surviving rats proceeded to lick themselves clean of the dye immediately, as 't Hart had predicted they would.
Holy shit.
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Goddamn
I previously kinda liked Hertzog (he was amusing to listen to if nothing else), not any more.
How do you boil 11,000 rats alive and then go on and make 10 minute long thinkpieces about the profound sadness of the death of a single penguin that leaves its flock? What a fucking masturbatory asshat.
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At what point do you just buy gray rats? Where in the cost benefit analysis does boiling rats in ink come in?
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Hoooooly shit I knew productions with animals were usually darker than they seem but Snow Buddies???? Snow Buddies was built on the back of mass puppy casualty???
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If you want to see more animal endangerment check out Milo & Otis.
They legit threw a cat off a cliff into the ocean for it.
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I used to love that movie until one night as a small child, something just snapped in me and I ran into my mom's room bawling my eyes out. I couldn't explain why at that age, but the movie felt so wrong from that point forward.
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Oh, damn. I just made this same comment before scrolling down further and seeing yours.
Come to find out the whole thing was filmed in China.
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I hate all animal cruelty but shit against cats makes me the angriest. What the fuck is wrong with people? These creatures love and trust us and we treat them in terrible ways.
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tldr: they were too young, a bunch got parvovirus and didn't make it
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Addendum:
They were too young and a bunch were sick, they were forced to get older puppies, who then also got sick.
They fucked up, got told they fucked up, then fucked up again.
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Thanks I'm illiterate
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I can’t even imagine the kind of person you have to be to actually let this movie get published about a bunch of cute little puppy dogs if you had the power to stop it and you knew what happened.
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This is the same company that, 60 years ago, built a turntable to throw lemmings off the edge of a cliff for a "nature documentary" since they weren't jumping over on their own.
Lemmings do not actually commit suicide in nature...
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What's the conventional wisdom as to why this is so bad, but eating meat basically gets a pass? Like, meat offers sustenance, yes, but it's by no means required. So basically, humans eat meat because it tastes really good --- it's great "culinary entertainment."
This is a different kind of entertainment, but it's deeply offensive to many folks. I'm not trying to be a dick about it, just curious why this is seen as such a sin.
Is it that these animals weren't "supposed" to be killed? Would a movie about a beef cow who ends up getting slaughtered, both onscreen and IRL, be seen as better? Worse?
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I think because of
1.the chasm between the intended discourse of the film (feelgood movie with puppies going on adventures) and the alleged means to film it, feels particularly cynical and dishonest
2.the fact that dogs are companions -they have co-evolved next to humans for about 15 thousand years and hold a special place, contrary to animals typically consumed for their flesh
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are you for real comparing this to eating meat?
Like we artificially breed cows into existence for meat and milk alone, dogs exists as companions, how could possibly be the same?.
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Because the animals don't care what our intended purpose for them is.
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Broadly, people are not ok with animals being mistreated. An animal that is raised in safe, comfortable conditions and then killed painlessly is not mistreated by the standards of many people.
Abusing a puppy and kitten to make a film is absolutely mistreatment, hence the different reaction.
I'm not trying to be a dick about it
Doubt. "Just asking questions" is so often a deliberate dick move.
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I assume that "No animal were harmed" claim cannot be used in film where real meat are consumed?
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I suppose if I had a cow living in my home with me that would be a problem. It's familiarity.
And puppies
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I found the vegan!
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👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 gj
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Welcome to veganism! 🌱💚🌱
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Laughs in Kristi Noem
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Kristi would've gave any animal heavy metal poisoning
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WTF?! Man I love Air Bud franchise but I never saw Snow Buddies. I was thinking of doing a re-watch and see all the Air Bud movies I haven't seen yet. But after seeing this news I'm not so sure....
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There are 23 movies in the Air Bud cinematic universe. Everyone always talks about the first Air Bud. The basketball one. The dog does a trick and boops the basketball into the hoop. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. If I'm on the losing team to that, I can applaud that. That's fine, whatever, I'd hurt my nose doing that. Cool. The rest of the team played well, too.
Now imagine being a kid on a sports team six years later. You arrive to your beach volleyball court and see you're playing against a dog. You might think, woah, the dog is just gonna boop the ball with his nose, right? Cool fucking trick, he's old as shit and has no new ones. Wrong. In Air Bud: Spikes Back, the fifth Air Bud movie, the eponymous Air Bud jumps up to the net and spikes a ball down on the opposing team. If I'm on the losing team to that, I fucking quit volleyball forever. There's no going back. Your dad doesn't ask how the game was, he saw the dog spike that shit on you on ESPN. What were you supposed to do? My fucking bad, our libero is a piece of shit who can't dig it up from a FUCKING DOG??? Where the FUCK is our middle blocker??? Which one of you assholes let's the dog go unmarked after that??? Slam the fucking ball into him, holy shit! No wonder we lost, they were too busy laughing their asses off while we floundered to get the ball over the net! Holy fucking shit, Andre, if you set the ball up so the FUCKING DOG GETS A CHANCE TO BLOCK ME WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU THE SETTER?!? No way, there is NO WAY anyone plays volleyball on that team again. Half that team kills themselves from the ridicule after that. The other half moves across the country and changes their names and faces. That dog ruins their lives. All to win a volleyball game.
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Also #FuckDisney
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hahah holy fuck, man. was not expecting to see that when I first opened up Lemmy
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George Carling.... Tippy the dog.
"Sometimes, you can get a dog that looks exactly like the dog you used to have. Right? You shop around a little bit, and you find a dog identical to your former dog. And that's real handy cause you don't have to change the pictures on your mirror or anything. Right? You just bring the dead one into the pet shop. Throw him up on the counter and say, "Give me another one of them. That was real good." And they'll give you a carbon copy of your ex-goddam dog. Now my favorite dog that I ever had in my whole lifetime was Tippy."