Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ @lemmy.dbzer0.com Unruffled @lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 mo. ago

Hollywood to UK Govt: Investigating Pirates "Increasingly Difficult" * TorrentFreak

Summary: A recent UK government inquiry into the challenges faced by the film and high-end television industry has recently received submissions from major Hollywood studios advocating for KYC (know your customer) rules for hosting providers, similar to banking regulations to identify money laundering. If adopted, this would help them to identify people hosting pirated content.

The submissions are united in identifying the same solution to this problem: the UK must implement a ‘Know Your Business Customer’ regime to compel commercial entities (including online intermediaries) to establish the true identity of their business customers as a precondition for selling, and receiving payment for, digital services.

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The inverse should also be true ... if businesses want to know about their customers ... customers should also know every detail about the business they are dealing with.

When we pirate its called breaking the law

When they pirate, it's just another normal business day

And in case you don't know what they pirate ... they pirate profits, raid workers unions, scavenge privacy rights and invade your personal space
- Remember the actor strikes this year? One of the demands was to keep AI from copying the likeness of the actors and using that to replace them.
  
  And these mother fuckers have the nerve to be worried I'm copying shit.
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- Also, they still break the law and ask the question: "What the fuck are you going to do about it? Sue us?"
They like to whine and cry that piracy makes them lose money, but the opposite is true (at least in my case.) I wouldn't have bought half the games I did if I hadn't first pirated them to try them out. I'm certainly not tossing $60+ dollars on something I "might" like otherwise.
- That's called an inconvenient truth. The fact of the matter is, if piracy was eradicated, concerts would be near empty and no one would know the music. Films that don't leak don't generally do as well unless you count blockbusters and even then, take Spider-Man, even if people pirate, fans will go and see it a few times. The problem isn't the piracy, it's that they can't profit off of it directly.
  
  I disagree on the concert front. How many people really discover new music through piracy? Sure, downloading it once you know about it, but these days I doubt it's a way most people discover new stuff.
- You realise that you can very easily refund Steam games if you haven't played more than 2 hours and had the game for no more than 14 days. I know it isn't optimal but still an option to try out a game with less risk. Plus I am usually waiting for sales to buy my games as there are very few games worth 60€ in my opinion.
  
  You realize it's even easier to pirate a game, play it without worrying about a time limit, and purchase it later if I like it?
  
  The only games I haven't pirated to try before buying are games that have a demo available.
I find it weird how "Hey, I want you to listen/watch to what I made." transformed into "Hey, you can only listen/watch if you paid for it."

Guess I won't then...
- Hey, you can only listen/watch if you paid for it…
  
  …in increasingly convoluted, limited and expensive ways designed to force you to subscribe to multiple platforms in order to access the same content you had seven years ago except for a lot more money and a lot less choice!
  
  This is it right here.
  
  If I want to watch something, can I do it within 2 minutes?
  
  Now? If it’s not in the current app I’m in and featured, unlikely.
  
  Piracy? Through a handful of services, local or remote, I can be watching that movie in one place in 30 seconds in the highest quality.
  
  What service was once decent has been ruined by capitalism again.
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hosting can be anywhere. This will kill the UK hosting industry, and they'll move to NL.
Lol, capitalists will never learn. I'm not going to suddenly magically buy your shit with money I don't have.
- 😂 you forgot the point where you double and triple buy overlapping streaming offerings because everyone gatekeeps their exclusives
I've always wondered what the genuine 'cost' of pirating is. Like if someone from a developing country pirates then it doesn't count because they wouldn't have bought it any way due to the high price. And if someone from a developed country pirates, but there is no reasonable alternative, then that is void too. I wouldn't be surprised if that number was really low. Why go through the trouble of pirating if you can pay for it and get a reasonable service?
- Why go through the trouble of pirating if you can pay for it and get a reasonable service?
  
  That's why it's a service problem.
  As a student (around 5-6 years ago) my friend and I both payed for a netflix account via gift cards because we wanted it and didn't have paypal or credit cards.
  
  Now I pirate because there are way too many services, for too high of an asking price and fragmented catalog.
  Want to see all the seasons of a show? Gotta subscribe to two or more services because one stroke a deal with the publisher while the 2nd got the other part.
  Also censoring both in episode and by removing whole episodes, changing parts of something etc etc.
  
  Fuck all the above. :|
  I can just call up radarr, search the movie by the parameters I set up beforehand and decide what version I want and done.
- Why go through the trouble of pirating if you can pay for it and get a reasonable service?
  
  I literally don't know any platform other than Steam that dose anything reasonable with digital content.
  
  I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.
  
  They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
- Not only its cheaper but also the service is starting to get better than if you'd pay for it
  
  Louis Rossman's recent video on this is good.
  
  And yeah, my Plex server doesn’t fuck me about the way the streaming services do.
- Here's my take on it. Things like Radarr, Sonarr, Jackett, etc offer a better service then Disney+, Netflix, Hulu, etc. Devs could charge for the *arrs and a lot of people would pay. Why? Because it's completely a la carte. Right now if there are say three shows I'm interested in then I could have to pay for three different streaming services. But not only that, I would also have to be concerned with whether or not that show is leaving the platform anytime soon. In the case of Hulu, not only do I have to worry about paying them but I also have to worry about paying them enough that I don't have to watch ads after paying them.
  
  Likewise with video games, there are games that have DLCs that require previous DLCs to fully unlock what they include. In other words, it is paywalling already paywalled content. I don't have a problem with the content, I have a problem with the way they present the content.
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- I think there must be some legal worry if they don't enforce their copyright so they have to pretend to care about low level piracy.
  
  That seems like a reasonable explanation. It's just like when someone makes a picture of mickey mouse. Of course it's not a real issue but they'll still enforce copyright.
  
  That's trademark. Copyright isn't like that.
This won’t work.. I’ll just host in Russia then, they don’t really care about US copyright violations
- Same thought. Why should I even want to host in GB. The host prices are probably higher as well compared to other (geologically) EU countries.
  
  I think they push this pitch all over the EU, the UK one is the only one that hit news thus far I guess. Most people host in NL/France.
  
  I host in Iceland and they practically pay you to use their service it's so cheap.
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  I bought hosting from Russia in the past, I was never asked to kyc
Didn't you guys just take a damn hammer to your streaming plans?
The only way to hunt pirates is to hire ninjas
@Flatworm7591 Tagging Lemmy Post 'Hollywood to UK Govt: Investigating Pirates "Increasingly Difficult" * TorrentFreak' (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/8855303): #Piracy
Outstanding. Truly, marvelous.
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