Firefox now supports clean URLs with the new "Copy link without site tracking" option

They should make this the default.

Or a setting that makes it the default.

I don't like any software I use to destroy data (even tracking data) without my say so.
- Hmm, I agree with you 100%, but power of defaults is how big companies get average consumers. Maybe Firefox should make it default with a setting to turn it on?
  
  A setting titled "allow copying of tracking data", a lot of people won't allow.
  
  Fight fire with fire.
- Opt-out then, the majority won't care
- If you wanted to do this and make it default, I believe you should be able to do so using userChrome.css. You won't be able to change the text, but you can remove the old menu item.
Or at least the option to make it the default. I could see some situations where someone may want to test a link with non-identifying parameters (like identifying the campaign source), and not wanting to have that stripped from the URL by default.

But I get you, from a consumer perspective I'd also want it as my default.

In the meantime, there's ClearURLs or uBlock Origin with filter lists.
It’s not the default because it can break links sometimes, like links that have authentication details in the parameters.
Doesn’t it just clean up the link or does Firefox actually know which part of the link to remove?
- What do you mean?
There's an addon I use for the Android version that does this by default.

It does miss some queryparams though but it dramatically reduces the URL size for the big offending sites.
- What is it?
But default is putting your cursor in the address bar and hitting ctrl-c. How would Firefox clean it like that?
- If it removes the tracking from the link before the page loads, it could work. So it would already be clean when you copy it.
- On android anyway, that's an interceptable action, and you can also monitor and alter the clipboard.
  
  So they could either alter what gets copied before its copied, or scan the copied item after it'd copied and alter it.
- It doesn't.
  
  If you think about it though, you've already visited that link so why clean it now.

Firefox user for many, many, many years. I tried chrome once and was dismayed at how sluggish it was, hogging ram & cpu.

FF just gets better and better with every update. I'm amazed that more people aren't using it.

At my school, firefox on the computers are not updated at all so it's using the very old firefox. Even then, it's not that slow. Now the current update is way more modern but it does have the weird stuff like pocket and very weird advertisements bookmarked on the front page. You'll get a much better experience after you do all the adjustments of removing everything and installing the proper extensions, maybe a little arkenfox too.
- That's interesting to hear. How come they aren't updating?
  
  Tbh I don't mind those 'ads' you speak of, not sure if we're talking about the same thing because for me it's mostly articles, often quite interesting stuff that I wouldn't have seen elsewhere. Will have a look into arkenfox now as never heard of that

Here's an amazon link both without and with that feature being used, for comparison. (The tracking one was created in incognito mode, because I don't know what sort of things it might reveal about me otherwise)

https://www.amazon.com/Bentgo®-Pop-Bento-Style-Compartments-Sustainable/dp/B0B3CLN8PX/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=2B470&content-id=amzn1.sym.87cc8b65-1eb6-4676-be85-d0235c8cc1b4&pf_rd_p=87cc8b65-1eb6-4676-be85-d0235c8cc1b4&pf_rd_r=Z6KPA93RVDCTHA2HFQM7&pd_rd_wg=o2LTo&pd_rd_r=fef55702-5392-47a4-a5d2-8a7951d1229b&ref_=pd_gw_dealz_cm&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Bentgo®-Pop-Bento-Style-Compartments-Sustainable/dp/B0B3CLN8PX/?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=pd_gw_dealz_cm&th=1

What do the parts it left on do? The encoding is innocuous enough but I don't know what it's doing with ref or th. I usually sanitize links myself and I'd have brought that one down to either

https://www.amazon.com/Bentgo®-Pop-Bento-Style-Compartments-Sustainable/dp/B0B3CLN8PX

or

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3CLN8PX

, depending on how much I cared at the time. I kind of expected firefox to bring it down to the first version.

Not sure what th is, but ref is the referrer's ID, which gives the referrer a referral / affiliate bonus if you purchase the item using that link. In theory it's not a bad way to support the referrer and it's not linked to you as an individual personally. You can remove it of course if you feel like they don't deserve the money for referring you to a deal. In the end ref or no ref the price of the item remains the same for you.

I think firefox leaves the ref in intentionally.
- I opened amazon in incognito then clicked on a random item from their front page, which was advertising their cyber monday deals at the time. In that case would it just be letting amazon know that that's how I ended up on that page, without serving any other real purpose?
The "ref" param is clearly a tracking breadcrumb, but not sure what the "th" param is. So this is "better" than nothing, but still has room for improvement. "_encoding" is fine, but UTF-8 should be a default for most users anyways.
Hm, copying the first link "without site tracking" still gives me this:

https://www.amazon.com/Bentgo®-Pop-Bento-Style-Compartments-Sustainable/dp/B0B3CLN8PX/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=2B470&content-id=amzn1.sym.87cc8b65-1eb6-4676-be85-d0235c8cc1b4&pf_rd_p=87cc8b65-1eb6-4676-be85-d0235c8cc1b4&pf_rd_r=Z6KPA93RVDCTHA2HFQM7&pd_rd_wg=o2LTo&pd_rd_r=fef55702-5392-47a4-a5d2-8a7951d1229b&ref_=pd_gw_dealz_cm&th=1
- I get the same when I copy from my comment - I guess it only works reliably from the address bar? Or maybe only if you're on the correct site?

Firefox is getting better every day

Can't wait til the entire extension ecosystem is available on mobile

Does anyone know where the source code for this is?

My c++ is pretty rusty, but I hopped through the changelogs. I think this is the source for it here https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/toolkit/components/antitracking/URLQueryStringStripper.cpp
- tbf, out of all the programming languages c++ is the worst in terms of DX and readability. Even worse than java, which I despised so much
I don't know the relevant programming languages so I don't know what to search for, but generally, if you want to find something in the Firefox source code, supposedly https://searchfox.org is a great way to do that.
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- There's various well-known tracking parameters that can be stripped, like UTM parameters. Stripping all query parameters would break a lot of sites, like anything in the vein of http://example.com/site.php?id=123
- Blanket-removing the query string would break many real links, so I'd imagine it's more nuanced than that.

There's also the ClearURLs add-on.

Or uBlock Origin with filter lists. 👍
Well yeah but building in privacy-enhancing features like this is a great strategy for FF.

I'm curious whether this sweet feature alone will decrease data greedy websites revenue in $ millions

It won't

Can someone ELI5 what is the difference with normal link sharing?

Does it change for the end user something or what? I ask because I almost never share stuff from my browsers, but I do from some apps such as social media or Sync for Lemmy/Voyager.

it just removes all the crap at the end of a link
Generally a link tells a browser where to find something on the Web, but you can stuff it with additional information so that when a server receives a request for that something, it will know how the browser got that link.

This feature strip's out that additional information.
Try to copy an Amazon link with and without this option and you'll see
- Ok, I'll try.
Try to copy an Amazon link with and without this option and you'll see
Try to copy an Amazon link with and without this option and you'll see

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Did you remove it or just switched the default to a different one?

I think it getting added again might happen in updates, if they change defaults that's a whole other beast

Switching is enough for me and i didn't had any weird behavior since years, beside the fullscreen VPN ad they did once
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Sucks, but they do this periodically yes. Google affiliation is a good revenue stream for them.

Is it available for Firefox android ?

As of this writing, it doesn't look like it.

As @SatyrSack@lemmy.one here mentioned, URLChecker is a good way to manipulate a URL before opening it.
- It does look like a really good app and idea, but I'm wondering if it's really necessary on mobile devices. Usually, I don't go around clicking on all kinds of links I shouldn't, so I'm wondering what exact purpose it accomplishes. Genuinely looking for input here.
You can look into URLCheck until it is

https://github.com/TrianguloY/UrlChecker
On Android you can install LinkCleaner as a PWA using a chromium browser, it will show up as an option when sharing a link from Firefox or any other app.

Is there an about:config setting to make this the default action or are we gonna have to be patient for that?

I looked for it in about:config, but I couldn't narrow it down and see which parameter it was (if it's even in there at all yet).

Also searching for this answer. https://lemmy.world/comment/5626130

Based Firefox

Semi-off-topic, but is there anything like a smarter clipboard on Android that can remove tracking details on paste (would be different from a plain paste)?

URLCheck: https://github.com/TrianguloY/UrlChecker
Not quite the same thing, but if you install LinkCleaner as a PWA using a chromium browser, it will show up as an option when sharing the link. Then you can copy to the clipboard or share it elsewhere.

Great for desktop/laptop, but I'm waiting for them to release it on mobile as well. At the very least, if they have, Mull hasn't added it yet.

Should be the default imo

Why would i ever have a link with tracking?

What do you mean? Tons of links on the web have trackers appended to the URL.
- Pretty sure they are asking, "Why would I ever want the tracking copied, why is this relegated to a bespoke option instead of being the default behavior?"
account activation links often have tracking required for them to work
The fact is that there is no surefire way to get rid only of tracking parameters, because they can mix in with other legit ones that if removed would break the website you're visiting.
Last I heard, Facebook had rolled out some encrypted URL parameters, so the collective mapping efforts to manually identify parameters only used for tracking on each different website could very well be nullified if many implement something evil as that

I noticed this feature in Brave first.

Mentioning Brave is like subscribing to downvotes. 😅
- Indeed, but it's true - Brave did bring this feature long ago. It's a good thing for us, let multiple browsers try to one up each other on privacy focused features.