This is why I don't think the Lemmy platforms will really grow to Reddit size until we solve this problem. Most folks don't want to curate their own feed when they first explore a social media platform. That usually comes later after they've been drawn in.
What Lemmy and kbin could really use is a set of default subscriptions that are curated by instance admins to provide the best new user experience.
For that matter, default block lists wouldn't be so bad either
In general, individuals blocking other users for [insert toxic misbehavior] is bad. The problem isn't that one user in particular is seeing it; the problem is that it exists at all and erodes the quality of the whole network.
Take trolling, for instance: if you just block the troll, all you're doing is giving them carte-blanche to keep spreading misinformation/shit-talking you/whatever without you knowing about it. Everybody else can still see it, though, which means they could still be doing damage to your reputation and you'd just appear to acquiesce to it.
People engaging in bad behavior need to be banned by the mods, not just blocked by individual users.
Agreed that blocking is useful, but the default shouldn't be having to jump through hoops to make the fediverse usable, especially for new users.
I'd suggest the mirrors of other social media be delegated to their own instance that clearly states that it is a bot-run Reddit or whatever mirror and other instances don't show them by default.
Those that want the mirrored no engagement content can subscribe to those on those particular instances and nobody needs to have a problem.
Not unilaterally. Linking to reddit is fine, but bots that just repost links are not. If you, a person, find something on reddit that's worthwhile (a comic that's only posted on reddit, or a thread detailing a tech solution, or something else) and link it, then that's fine. You, a person, found value on another site and shared it. I don't care what a bot thinks. I care what you, my fellow lemming, thinks.
A lot of posts are from bots. It would be cool if the bots could make a whole new submission and not link back, but all things considered I'm just happy there is interesting content.
It’s funny to me that there’s a “Reddit” section on the fediverse where people just post complaints about Reddit. Just get over it already and move on.
It's still helpful to talk about what's going on elsewhere
see what we can do better
see what good features are worth adopting here
Calling out bad actions by other platforms. We don't HAVE to help people that aren't on the Fediverse, but there are a lot of experienced and knowledgeable people on here that can discuss issues and how we can address them
Yes, so much "auto archive" spam. What are you archiving? A link? Because there isn't any actual content there. As an aside, jerboa has an option to block bot accounts, so that's what I've been doing now
Agree, doesn't really make sense to engage with them since the original post and discussions are somewhere else. I think the point of these bots is to create more content to attract new people here on lemmy
There are some subreddits I don't want to just lose and I don't expect them to grow super fast here. I'm glad for these bots, they give me the choice u/spez is trying to steal from me.
Yeah. It’s been discussed a fair bit. There are/were a few different projects doing this, with the intent of “jumpstarting” or “kickstarting” communities on Lemmy. Some of the larger instances defederated from them. I don’t feel like it’s a solid theory either.
I think treating Reddit like an other source of information (whether valuable or not) is fine to reference for conversation or topics. While I’m pissed at what the overlords there have done, it still has a large source of community based information.
I agree, but only with the amendment that links to reddit only be text posts and comment chains, or otherwise reddit-exclusive things such as /r/place.
Images and links should bypass reddit altogether and just link to the first source link (ie, the news article or w/e), or be posted as a lemmy image post with a credit citation in the description.
Nobody wants to have to click through 3 different pages to learn who's winning what war or to see a picture of a cat.
Although the rss feed feature is broken so there's been no posts for a few days, !bapcsalescanada@lemmy.ca is one I used to track PC part sales. It was mirroring from Reddit, but just one easily blocked user from anyone not interested. We don't have enough people frequenting RedFlagDeals and if we rely on individuals posting deals it will be way too late. That community saved me from needing to check Reddit at all.