How would you feel/react if your home address was announced & published very publicly the same way celebrities experience?
How would you feel/react if your home address was announced & published very publicly the same way celebrities experience?
I feel second-hand fear & paranoia on behalf of celebs whose home addresses are public worldwide knowledge.
Anyone can google their address and show up/take pictures/lurk/stalk,
But thankfully most people would never think to do such a thing nor have any inclination to do so,
but the fact that they COULD and sometimes HAVE, is very concerning 😟
I wish sensitive information like that could be kept proprietary and wasn't so easy for anyone in the world to access.
You know as a matter of fact, it's much more difficult to find the address of acquaintances we know in daily life. Which is a good thing.
How terrifying it must b for celebrities, so they have body guards and a security detail and full-fledged security system at their houses 😥 it's exhausting thinking about it.
When I was a kid we had a phone book, it doxxed everyone with a land line.
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If you own your home, it's a matter of public record in most states. Hell, I once used to resolve a disagreement my wife and I were having over our neighbor's name. Just looked up the property address on your county assessors website... They list the owners, when the property was last sold, the appraised value and taxes, and a bunch of other stuff.
Our county even makes marriage licenses searchable online.
We called it a phone book.
Exactly. As a Boomer who grew up in a small town with telephone "party lines" I just can't be arsed to care. Come look in my windows if you need a thrill.
Fortunately that's optional
Welcome to living in Sweden.
With a quick Google search you can find someone’s home address, income, social security number, birthdate, amount of owned vehicles, political work (if any), size of home, criminal record, and much more!
It fucking sucks for it all to be public information, but websites dedicated to collating it all under one roof is even worse.
Dafuq, I always thought that personal data was serious business in Sweden, unpleasant surprise
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Seems like a lot of people are unaware of white pages
In the olden days it was easier to look anyone up, the phone company would deliver a new phone book to everyone's front door twice a year, how could we not all be at least a little fascinated to explore through all those pages and look up people we know from school etc? 😋
nowadays people have to go out of their way with an intention in their mind to go to a website and look people up on whitepages.com or peoplefinder.com etc and last time I noticed years ago, a fee is required to use those kind of sites.
I remember back in grade school (early 80's) we had lessons about how to use a phone book. Now I'm surprised if I ever see a new one dropped off at the front door.
The nice thing about being a regular person is that very few people have any reason to care.
If you buy something online, the merchant has your name and address. They could come to your house, but why would they?
The nice thing about being a regular person is that very few people have any reason to care.
One crazy ex (or, hopefully ex) and one's tune changes quick.
Or sometimes you're born into a shit family, and THEY stalk you when you try to get away.
yeah thankfully I don't worry about such things whatsoever, but we've all heard in the news once in awhile these things do happen, for example a construction worker on a house came into the window of a sleeping child's bedroom one night and kidnapped her
In the internet age, it's incredibly easy to look up personal information about people like their address. Sorry, but you likely are easily searchable just like the rest of us.
yep, all my lifetime addresses are publicly searchable and easy to find online, but you'd be hard pressed to find me because I don't live at any of those addresses.
Sorry but I don't feel any sympathy for celebrities. They gave up the right to privacy the second they started getting free $7000 a bottle wines and iPads for free just because they're famous.
And WTF is up with folks essentially worshipping celebs like Taylor Swift?
The thing that i don't get is, if every celebrity's phone number, adress and whatever got leaked tomorrow, i would visit and or call the just as much as now.
People admire those that do things they like. When a LOT of people like the same person it can turn into a feedback loop. Couple that with parasocial relationships and easy communication via the Internet and it can easily blow up. We're also programmed to like people that are popular because others like them.
I got the shit bullied out of me by popular people when I was a kid. As an adult I just assume anyone who's popular is a psychopath
Here in Sweden you can just google a phone number or a name and get the address, a map of the area, an guide to find the right apartment, the persons gender, how many lives in the home, how many vehicles the person owns, the person's age and birthday, the size of their aprtment, the aproximate value of their home, and more without any cost.
This is normal here, and since everyone is listed we don't really think about it.
That being said, I would be quite annoyed if the press did an article on me where they published my home address...
Well, la-deee-daa! Look at you, with all your safety and security and lack of fear. I bet you even think you're European or something snooty like that.
(jokes from an envious American)
You fortunate Swedes have really got it goin on
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You mean like the phonebook?
You mean, the phone book?
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I'm not interesting enough to worry about people being unduly interested in me.
I was going to jokingly post the coordinates to a White Castle in Chicago, but then I thought it might be interpreted as serious doxxing, and I could get permanently suspended.
So just imagine that I did that, and it was really funny.
LMAO gotem! (I'm imagining really hard)
Often when I meet new people they ask me where I live and I find that very strange and I'm uncomfortable with that.
Why do people ask me where I live? I never ask anyone else where they live. I couldn't even imagine asking someone that. Especially upon meeting them for the first time.
I don't know where you're from, but asking about where one lives (in very general terms, such as city and state) is a common thing to do while striking up friendly conversation here in the US. Your response gives us cultural context and may reveal shared experiences.
No one who asks, "Where you from?" is asking for your street address.
The phone book is a thing, you know?
You are the fifth person to make the same comment and we've already discussed this.
And this is the 3rd or 4th dickish comment you've made about it.
Celebrities could retire into obscurity, go away and be forgotten, nobody would bother them. But they want and NEED to be hounded, stalked, chased and be the center of attention.
That's why i like Daft punk, no one care about them until they put on the mask.
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Google has a feature where it'll tell you if your personal information shows up in their index and you can request they remove it from being served.
I can say that my personal information has shown up a few times.
Their aspiration/ income is directly tied to how popular they are. You can't have both. They have enough money to hide if they please
Am I rich like they are?
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Yeah. That's bs though. Being rich and worried about it while you can afford security and large amounts of property and several vehicles and exclusive clubs and restaurants etc is 100% different than having to deal with the same issues, but with $60k a year instead.
Famous celebrity is a trade off. You're giving everyone here only the option of taking on the bad portion, while having none of the good portion.
Also remember, most celebrities CHOOSE their fame/lifestyle. They want rich Famous with those issues over $60k and no fame and fortune.
I like how you delete every comment you have that goes negative and even edit the text to be "#" so you can't get called out for your bad takes.
No celebrity owns the house the live in or stay in. No truly rich person does.
An LLC or more likely a trust owns the house, land, everything they have. And those are owned by other LLCs and Trusts so you can't follow the chain. If someone is doxxed, they go somewhere else. Many places are rented out (think Airbnb) all the time. If you get caught, your agent will "leak" that's just where you were vacationing and the next paparazzi photos will be in different locations on purpose.
Then you do what many do, and buy their real homes in countries that take privacy seriously. When you want an escape, you fly to your real house. No such thing as papparazi, security issues, or anything.
Syndrome says in the incredibles, "when everyone is super, nobody is".
In an ideal world, without stalkers, ad companies, doorstop marketers and selling data, it would be much less of an issue if everyone's addresses were public - there would be nothing special about it since everyone's equally exposed.
In today's world though, I'd be terrified AF!
I wonder how many celebrities go to counselling/therapy, looking at all the horrible things people say online, as well as death threats, creeps etc. Must be miserable
Some random but related food for thought: consider Ebay, Amazon and other marketplaces - you're handing over your address, email and phone number to a random seller (on Ebay this includes your order history, public on your profile) and any one of these could sell your private data onwards, potentially exposing some of your online identity to data brokers for advertising or other malicious purposes. Depending on your threat model, online shopping could be a pretty risky thing to use. Amazon used to also make users' wishlists public by default, not sure if that is still a thing
The risks of online shopping have been discussed before and those interfaces are highly encrypted, So while it's understandable if people want to avoid it entirely, we really don't need to be too paranoid about online shopping.
regarding the Amazon wish list defaulting to public awhile ago, yeah there was a big uproar about that. I hope Amazon straightened things out with that.
Slightly annoyed and then I'd move. I live moving and I travel light so it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience.
But I agree that it is terrifying and awful for people who prefer to put down roots or have their lifestyle tied up in being public figures.
Depends on how it went. But I'm well armed, and my location honors the castle doctrine, and my town is right pissy about trespassing.
Back when I first got published, I was dumb enough to do so under my real name.
This has led to a few locals seeing my books are the local library, recognizing the name and finding me. They've all been quite polite, so no big deal.
But the truth is that anyone that showed up causing problems isn't going to have a good time. My neighbors are mostly crazier than I am, and we've all had to show up for each other here and there when someone was acting a fool. So, chances are, whatever idiot it was would get run off long before I had to shoot them.
And, since I know most of the damn town to some degree, including the chief of police and the county sheriff, it isn't like an outsider would even be in town long, unless they enjoy the hospitality of a jail. While the police are a problem overall, the local departments have guys in charge that are trying to fix that to some degree. But not to the degree that some assholes from the internet won't end up being seen doing something they can get charged for.
Jesus, being real, I'm certain my one neighbor would likely kill someone if he saw them taking pictures around here without being warned in advance. He's touchy. He might not start out planning it, but he'd be up in their face, and if they didn't just leave, he would try to make them leave. If they fought back? He's a bit touchy, but a whole lot trained.
But yeah, celebrities don't have that kind of connection to their area like private citizens do, and not every private citizen does either. When I lived in the city, I tried being nice to my neighbors and got outright told to fuck off.