I finally nuked windows
I finally nuked windows
I have been daily driving a dual booted laptop for the past two years. After a year of distro hopping I settled with fedora + kde and never looked back. I really liked the auto nvidia driver config and it made everything so pleasant to work. Since the last 8 or 9 months I decided to do gaming using bottles and proton ge. I cannot afford to buy games and bottles is a God send at that. Now I realized that I had not logged into my windows partition in over 6 months. So I logged in to check and it told me it needs to download 8 gigs of updates. That sent me into rage and so clean installed everything to be fedora. I have 250 gb of storage locked in limbo because of windows( I have a 512 gb ssd so it was a lot) and today after everything was setup, the os took only around 20gb minus the games. Never felt happier.
So I logged in to check and it told me it needs to download 8 gigs of updates. That sent me into rage and so clean installed everything to be fedora. I have 250 gb of storage locked in limbo because of windows
Sounds like you took your time, got comfortable, found a distro you liked, and generally did it all the right way. Now watch as with each new headline you see about Windows or MS you become happier and happier with your decision. There's no better advertisement for Linux than the behavior of MS and Windows. 😁
Congrats on dumping Windows. One of us! One of us!
Early 2000s, Microsoft starts putting sketchy telemetry into XP: 🙂
Late 2000s, MS ramps that shit up even more with Vista and 7 while the bloat rises to never before seen levels with the architecture change to 64 bit: 😁
Early 2010s, MS includes actual fucking ads into the OS: 😆
Early 2020s, MS jams AI into it because it's the thing to do and everybody else is doing it after nobody really asked: 🤣
Fuck Microsoft.
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I never even wondered about it until you asked lol. But the answer is pretty interesting.
Origin is this scene from a very old film called Freaks. https://youtu.be/bBXyB7niEc0
Congrats, and welcome to the club!
Thanks. I was already part of the club. Now just I burnt the access card to the other club
I remember when I did the switch in 2008 and never looked back. I had a similar experience where across a few years I have been trying different distributions and finally settled on Lubuntu. Years have passed and different machines as well. Now my main driver is a Steam Deck with his Arch based OS and a secondary pure Arch on a sd card for more specific tasks.
Linux made my life more comfortable and relaxed, without even mentioning secure. My family uses Linux now, Windows is long dead.
We are free.
I actually set up Linux on my family machine 1 year ago and they don't even notice since all they need is a browser and vlc. So they have been daily driving Linux longer than me :)
This is the way. Dealing with the significantly fewer problems they have is easier too. Most things I can ssh in without even touching the computer and fix the issue from my laptop.
I remember when I did the switch in 2008 and never looked back.
I wasn't far behind you. My first laptop around that time came with Vista installed. Didn't take long for me to switch Ubuntu after that, haven't been back to Windows since.
using bottles and proton ge
I don't think it'll make much of a difference, but according to the git repo, you should be using wine-ge instead. Also Lutris is another option that does the same thing, but has easy install scripts for GOG, Epic Games, Ubisoft Connect, and EA App.
My process flow has been Steam, if not Steam then Heroic, if not Steam or Heroic then Lutris. I have yet to find a game unplayable.
The only thing I haven't figured out how to do is get Fusion 360 running stable.
Feels good to ditch Windows don't it?
It's like a brick off my chest
For anyone wondering what Proton GE is, it's Proton on steroids: https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom
For instance, even if you have an old Intel integrated GPU, chances are you can still benefit from AMD's FSR just by pushing a few flags to Proton GE, even if the game doesn't officially support it, and you'll literally get a free FPS boost (tested it for fun and can confirm on an Intel UHD Graphics 620).
We all just bask in the brilliance of a glorious eggroll.
Hell yeah! Welcome, from an admittedly also new full-time Linux user.
My laptop is the same except, I keep a Windows partition because the RGB keyboard controller is only available in a Windows app. That Windows partition exists in a post apocalyptic dystopia where Windows belongs; it has never, nor will ever see the internet. It is blocked my my network firewall. Windows is like a less than useful bootloader options tab.
Not knowing which keyboard laptop combo you have, but have you looked at openrgb? Works nicer than the stock tool I was using in my experience!
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into it. I'm a bit skeptical because the changes made in Windows are persistent, the secondary function keys give quick access to some of these features (but only 3 course brightness PWM settings for RGB), but mostly because there is a device on the USB device tree that is unknown to the Linux kernel on mainline-fedora.
Maybe there is some kind of kernel configuration option that just needs to be added, but the bootloader rejects custom keys generated for secure boot. Without my own keys I'm stuck with the shim and can't run my own signed kernel. It might be possible to set the keys by booting into UEFI with Keytool, but my motivation hasn't carried me that far into the problem yet. I could be wrong and the unknown USB device could be unrelated, and openrgb could work. Thanks again.
Congrats! Hope you keep having a great experience with linux 😁🐧
I genuinely do. I can't even imagine why anybody would use software whose source code isn't visible. Not cool.
Not sure how Bottles and not buying games directly relate (other than Bottles also being able to play pirated games obviously), but anyway.
I switched to Linux on my main computer as a "New Year's Resolution" and so far I'm not missing much. I did cross-grade from an RTX 3080 to a Radeon 7800 XT because 95 % of the problems I experienced were related to Nvidia and their crappy drivers, but after that I had little issues in general.
I also use Fedora + KDE. KDE on Wayland seems to be the most reliable way to get VRR (FreeSync) working with multiple monitors. I installed it onto a new SSD I bought for this purpose, but I'll transition more and more SSDs over to the Linux install as time progresses. The only reason I booted into Windows again so far was to check out some application's configuration so I could replicate it on Fedora's side. I didn't even bother to install the Radeon GPU driver under Windows.
I could complain about smaller issues, but these are mostly related to third party software where the Linux version has some weird quirks (or where there's straight up no Linux version, mainly games).
Overall very solid and I assume it only gets better with time.
The main reason I used fedora was because of hassle free nvidia (as muchjh as they can do until nvidia open sources everything and not just the kernel modules).
All these posts about Linux have me curious, especially because I just updated my hardware and have enough parts leftover to make a new PC. My main PC still has to run Windows because I use Ableton for music, but you guys are making me want to make the 2nd PC Linux just for shits and giggles. Especially if it plays well with Nvidia, my old card is a 2070.
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"Working well" is relative. You can make Nvidia work, but there are some caveats. Currently, there's driver 535 and 545, and both have different quirks. Neither works particularly well with Wayland, certain applications can flicker when they need longer to draw than the display's refresh rate.
So, when I tried with the 3080, I eventually gave up and used X11. X11 has a technical limitation though, and it prevents VRR to work with multiple displays. That's because X11 combines all displays to a single virtual "screen", so a full screen application on one display can't set the refresh rate of that display independently. This isn't a problem with single monitor setups though.
As I tested Baldur's Gate 3, I found that choosing Vulkan in the launcher resulted in about half the performance compared to Windows, and DirectX 11 (which ironically gets translated to Vulkan by DXVK) had graphical glitches like black boxes instead of houses etc.
Knowing all that and if you're willing to experiment with driver versions, it's not that horrible, it's just not as straightforward as AMD Radeon on Linux (or Nvidia on Windows for that matter).
For me it has been that I have bought the games at some point and the versions offered on GoG or steam haven’t been the full versions pf the game so I’ve used wine bottles. Proton is a godsend
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Yeah I agree, my point was just that Bottles isn't especially made for piracy, it can play "legit" copies of games just as well.
I'm not condemning them for pirating games, sail the high seas all you want!
Also checkout Heroic Launcher, Epic gives free games every week, there's plenty of fun to have with those too.
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What blows my mind about windows updates is just how long they take to actually install. It's not even the reboots that bother me. Just the sheer time frames.
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It wasn't the fact that I got updates that bothered me. It's the fact that this update will take up more space on my disk and not replace previously occupied 8 gb that irked me. Some how, the space occupied by windows jut keeps on increasing.
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This is why I stay away from Flatpack and Snap (and anything node or Electron). If I get a gig with my weevly Arch update, I think it's a lot.
Can't avoid it with some programs, but if there are options, there's a set of technologies I avoid like the plague.
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I also don't bother with Flats and snaps. Too much hassle. I like the fact that Linux uses system wide linkable so files.
Why are large packages a problem? Are you running low on disk space?
I got really close yesterday, I'm a gamer and it's just... ach... anyway... I'm so close. I clean installed Windows and Linux yesterday and designed my dual boot system around giving Windows as little space as was necessary (a small partition on the drive where I keep the OSs and a 500gb Nvme drive). That way I keep a little Windows and everything else is Linux. Other than Librewolf ('cause no flippin' way I'm using Edge) I'm only allowing games on there. No work, email, social media, just gaming.
Anyway, good on you for nuking Windows, I can see myself going full Linux in the not-too-distant future as so much is now working on Linux these days - and not just working, but working really well; some games I get a better experience than on Windows (Warframe, BG3 for example).
What video games do you play, BC they mostly all work on Linux
I play a lot of Destiny 2, Rust, and Star Conflict and I have friends I have made through playing these games over several years. Pretty much all of the other games I play work from amazingly well to just fine on Linux - I have checked the rest of my games against ProtonDB and they're all good to go. I'll probably build a Linux only pc in a couple of years when my current setup needs an upgrade. That will be a day I shall celebrate!
nice
i remember nuking my windows dual boot about 2 years ago
pretty similar story: i discovered almost all my games work with wine, so i didn't use windows for a few month. eventually i didn't see any point in keeping it around.
so clean installed everything to be fedora.
It may not have been necessary to do a complete reinstall. If fedora uses LVM or BTRFS for your partitions (which it likely does) then you could have just formated the windows drive and added it to your "pool".
I actually did everything on Ext4 and had a separate home partition which was only 30gigs. So that was the main gripe in the previous install I had I thought to rectify it.
Alas I didn't use btrfs this time also and did Ext4. Maybe I should have enabled snapshots. Who knows. I may just be an adventurous dude.
Are you using LVM? It's a layer that sits under ext4 that allows for partition management similar to btrfs. You can find out if you're using it by running
sudo lvdisplayand you would see some logical volumes listed.
Welcome to the party pal
Thank you. Drinks on me!!!
One of us!
One of us!!!
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I nuked my Windows 11 and went with Fedora KDE, too.
Welcome to the Penguin party - you are free now :) And thanks for sharing your OS adventure.
Glad to. Sharing the holy word my friends.
I only use Windows for work nowadays, I have a mind to swap it with Linux too but afraid it'll mess up with some programs.
what do you mean by your windows storage being "in limbo"?
Basically the windows partition was taking up around 250 gb. And wasn't even booting into it. Sure I could access it from Linux, but it was literally useless.
ah I see. at first I interpreted it as you couldn't reclaim the space from windows
Man, I had fresh imaged windows 11, and windows update nuked my bios. Never again.
I installed endeavor, but the lack of a GUI for installations bothered me. Installed kubuntu last night.
I'm curious, how did it nuke your bios?
I mean...I Said windows did it lol.
But for real, I selected to update my firmware from within Windows update. I tried for a couple days, but was not able to recover it. Since I had an HP pre built, I used it as an opportunity to upgrade. I got a new motherboard and a couple parts and I'm back on my feet.
8 gigs of update after leaving for 6 months is a sensible thing to occur. I don't know why it is a thing to be enraged by.
I mean, if you don't update an OS and you come back to check go updates, it will pile on to become a huge update like the 8 gigs.
Lastly, don't distrohop because it is not there, there is always something that exists that can give you what you want.
This community has become nothing but these kinds of posts every day. I'm considering unsubscribing because it's becoming so bad.
Maybe the mods can restrict it to, like..Windows Wednesday or something.
One day a week, everyone can post about leaving Windows, why Windows sucks, why Windows is gonna fail in 2024, maybe post a picture of their monitor saying "Now Uninstalling Windows," all the good shit we've seen a hundred times by now.
Then, we can all get the hell on with our lives until next week.
Great idea. I hope they make more things like this on lemmy. Megathreads, themed weekdays/days of the month. That was fun on the other place.
I am sorry if my post made you feel bored. But please don't unsubscribe. What kind of post do you want to see on this platform? I am sure people can reach a common ground my mutual discussion.