Star Wars should learn from Andor and stop making Disney Plus shows that are so obsessed with the Jedi

You mean like The Mandalorian? 🤔

What Disney should do is focus away from the ~100 years that take place during the Skywalker saga. Theyre coming out with an old republic show, finally, after owning the property for over 10 years now. Its a big ass galaxy, fill it with something.

As a longtime (read: older) Star Wars fan, I feel like completely eschewing Jedi is a mistake. What I’d love to see is more exploration of the world from the perspective of people who aren’t Jedi and aren’t directly involved in the mystic struggle, but are present to bear witness to what happens when literal gods play politics around them.

The Jedi should always be a central theme to Star Wars. They’re what make the universe what it is. Without them, it’s just another space opera, and sci fi needs its MacGuffin. But it would be super interesting to see stories told from outside of that central narrative, reacting to, interacting with, and otherwise existing around the Jedi.

I know this has been explored to some extent with Mandalorian and Andor, but the latter - while a great show - still felt like it would be improved with more direct involvement of the central theme of the universe.

Disney needs to re-learn the concept of the Disney Vault, and use it.

I don't want any more star wars this decade, thanks. Games, books, sure. But TV and film absolutely not.

Take a break, let the audience build nostalgia and long for it, and sweet Jesus have a fucking plan next time.

Nope, they're doing a trilogy of Rey movies.

Let me go against the grain here: I see a lot of people saying "we need a show like this, we need more of that", but we don't really need more Star Wars. We need good Star Wars, not more Star Wars.

Most people want the occasional movie and show about the central Star Wars story, not a multitude of spin-offs about not-Star Wars which happen to be set in the Star Wars universe. They should develop more original stories and settings. "Go out and make your own Star Wars" in the words of George Lucas.

The only problem is the central movies have turned out to be absolute dogshit under Disney.

I really feel like somewhere along the line they forgot that what made Star Wars cool was the gritty 'Han shot first' scifi spaghetti western stuff. The Jedi are an important piece of that but it's so sanitized now - ain't nobody suddenly finding their bloody arm laying on the ground anymore.

Andor was written as a heist thriller that happens to occur in the Star Wars universe, that's why it's good. Same as Rogue One.

They should leave the Skywalker saga. There’s thousands of years & a whole galaxy to fill with stories, and they keep dancing in the same 100 years & the same planets.

Wrong (in my opinion), jedi aren't the problem, writing and creativity is.

It’s important to remember that the vast majority of the galactic population has never seen a Jedi in real life, and doesn’t even know anyone who has. The Jedi are nearly mythical figures, surrounded by rumor, speculation, and misinformation.

They are not obsessed with jedi, they are obsessed with making money. Wait what that little shit yoda is trending on twitter? Throw everything away, we need more baby yoda.

I don’t have an issue with Jedi. I am tired of the Skywalker family.

I saw Star Wars in the theater when it was just called Star Wars. I couldn't agree with OP more. However I have zero trust that Disney will make more adult oriented shows for the simple reason of merch. What's the merchandising opportunities of Andor? You can't sell lightsaber replicas when there's no lightsabers to replicate.

I actually don't want any more Star Wars content. I'm seriously bored now. Perhaps if any of it was good it would be different but so much of it is so bad.

I think the Jedi/no Jedi debate isn't useful. I believe the major difference is whether or not the writing is good or not. Andor felt like the best star wars material ever written, a whole different league. Mandalorian season 1 felt like fresh, fun star wars. Season 2 felt messier and more corporate with it's connections to the greater universe. Season 3 felt bad. Ashoka felt bad. Boba fett felt bad.

They feel worse the worse the writing gets, Jedi or not.

I agree that seeing a wider range of stories from different time periods (other than the ones Disney has already fucked up - looking at you FO and the rehash of 4-6) would be great. But that's not what will predict the quality - well paid writers with a vision and a team around them interested in that vision is what we need.

I’ve always wanted some media from the Star Wars universe from other points of view. Maybe a sitcom from a family living on Coruscant? A drama about a business that makes ships for the Empire/Republic? A drama about someone in the business of Death Sticks, like Breaking Bad/Weeds? A romance between two aliens on two different planets and all between them?

There is literally a galaxy of possibilities with the usual formulas for other shows/movies set in this same universe.

Andor is not the first lesson to do Star Wars without Jedi.

The MMO Star Wars Galaxies is.

There is nothing wrong with Jedi-centric stories ... if the stories would be any good.

Acolyte trailer certainly looks repetitive/derivative.

For all the shit that Lucas gets, I have to say that his vision for Star Wars has not been replicated. And when you grow up watching those films, you become hyper-sensitive to anything that doesn't "feel" Star Wars. I honestly believe that's why the Sequel trilogy wasn't received well, and why the TV shows fall flat for the most part.

I think you can do a bunch with jedi/sith, but you have to use the force for something more interesting than pushing things and jumping pretty high. The extended universe novels had all sorts of cool shit force users could do with it. They should lean in to that kind of stuff.

So glad I bailed on Star Wars when they announced 11 new projects all at once.

I want something that explores and expands in the sentinels, probably the coolest form of Jedi to me.

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A well-written opinion, but I can't agree.

Jedi/Sith are central to Star Wars, everything else is just the support for that story.

Having said that, I have no problem with seeing other parts of the Galaxy and how they interact and react to the Jedi/Sith struggle, etc.

But to focus on that exclusively, no.

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