In 2022, it was reported that Vladimir Putin and his top leadership were developing a backup plan to flee to Venezuela if Russia were defeated in Ukraine.
As I explained earlier today, he was commenting about crime decreasing around the world and, if Kamala were elected, it would be safer to meet the person he was speaking with in Venezuela than in the United States.
Evidently many Lemmy users don’t understand that this a threat, not a promise to leave. Direct quote from Trump:
"If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country," Trump said to Musk. "OK, so we'll go. You and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela."
He’s implying the violence that will be unleashed on the US by his followers if he looses will make Venezuela (a country that is currently in revolt because of contested elections) seem safe in comparison to what his people will do here.
This is a classic “mobster” threat against anyone who opposes him that he just threw out.
I know he intended this as hyperbole but I 100% would not be surprised if the reason this popped into his head is because he's been making arrangements for exactly this.
If I were him I wouldn't want to hang around in the US after a loss in November. It's all or bust.
I'm not American, but my assumption was that the President's role was one for life, in that he will always have a presidential security detail with him, and while he can travel abroad it's probably only to countries with good diplomatic ties with the US.
A former President moving outside of a friendly jurisdiction could be a huge security issue that he couldn't just wave away.
I hate Trump, but this framing is disingenuous. In the context of what he was saying, he was trying to make "a point" about South American countries sending criminals to the USA. He was claiming that if he doesn't win the election, it would be safer to have their next conversation in Venezuela because there would be no crime there as they'd have sent all criminals to USA.
So, you know, just more of his really stupid bullshit, but he wasn't really saying he would flee to Venezuela. For one, that would require him to believe he had done something wrong or to admit some kind of defeat, two things that I firmly believe he is incapable of doing.
In the context of what he was talking about, it seemed like that was his weird way of trying to make Venezuela sound like a better place than what America would be under Kamala Harris. Best thing you can do really is just completely ignore this guy because he thrives on attention, negative or positive.
Imagine if the Project 2025 plans to question the results and bring it to the corrupt supreme court all failed because Trump impulsively fled? Would be hilarious
This is slightly at odds with many Republican legislators because many people fleeing Venezuela are firmly on the right. When DeSantis did his whole transporting Texas asylum seekers, one of the main issues was that money for that was not to be used for people fleeing Venezuela.
Can we all chop in for a ticket to send him now, save him the trouble of trying to come up with nicknames for Harris and Walz that they don't turn into positives? Like "Tampon Tim" ...."He's going to stop the red wave!" Which is how Trump ended up building Walz.