5mo ago

A sovcit FAFO.

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I truly believe that these license plates actually work but not for the reason these idiots think.
As soon as a cop sees your plate, they instantly know you're driving an unregistered vehicle, probably dont have a license, insane, looking for an argument, and impervious to reason. Good chance they're going to say "Fuck it, I'm not dealing with this crap today."
- And once posted in the local gossip group, they're now forced to deal with it
  
  Should have spelled it PR1VATE to really win. /s
- This is probably the correct answer. I drove around without a front license plate for over 4 years (my state requires front and back) since my car didn't come with screws for a front mount. It was one of those things I put on my to-do list but never got around to and eventually just kind of forgot about it.
  Anyway, I live close to a couple of police stations (I live near a border to another city, so my city and the next city have PDs within a couple miles of each other) and never got pulled over. Hell, I have even went through several traffic stops over the years and none of them ever said a word to me. A few months ago I finally ran into a cop that actually gave a shit and pulled me over. He was obviously a new recruit, as he was very young and did everything very by-the-book. I got a warning and the next day I ordered a mount for my other plate, but I was just amazed I'd gone so many years without any cop caring. I figured it was because most cops just can't be bothered to care about small shit like that. Though, if I was a minority (I'm in the US), it'd probably be a different story.
  
  If you were a minority you'd be pulled over every day, probably each way to and from work with that as the reason. Given expensive fix-it tickets each time. And most likely had your vehicle searched or impounded for multiple failures to comply. Not being hyperbolic, this has happened often. One guy it was 1 day, 3 tickets and then impound because he failed to fix the issue in a day.
  When the rules are applied on a whim by whatever person with authority feels like, you live in tyranny. That isn't an orderly system. It is a failed nation.
  
  I'm chancing it with my front plate right now too. Been over a year and nothing said yet. I do carry it in my car just in case. I think it's one of those addon charges, if they catch you for something else and want to just slam you with everything.
  
  Some states don't require front plates, so they have to check front and back to notice.
- Also sov cits are probably more likely than the average driver to be carrying concealed weapons and stuff, since they don't think the law applies to them.
  
  Literally one killed a cop last week in Dallas.
- Ever hear one of these guys babbling in front of a cop/judge? They think by speaking the exact phrase of faux-legal gibberish they can magically unlock "immunity from law". They just repeat the same phrase in as many different word combinations as possible desperately searching for the right incantation
  It never works but being impervious to reality or reason is basically the hill they are willing to die on in order to gain online clout with a niche group of weirdos who for some reason trigger the dopamine receptors in their glass-smooth brains by feeling collectively intransigent together
  
  I've never understood this. Even if they are absolutely convinced that they're right, you can go watch 1000 videos of judges and cops who are wholly unimpressed with their gibberish. They might be convinced they know a hidden truth, but what good is it when the established institutions don't recognize it as truth?
  My theory is that they're just lacking in reasoning skills. How else would you become a sovcit in the first place? If their arguments were effective, every lawyer in the country would be using them.
  
  Have you seen the Darryl Brooks trial? The dude murdered 20 people by driving into a Wisconsin Christmas parade and tried to sov cit his way out of it.
  He failed. He’s on 6 life sentences for it. It’s not magic law immunity and the FAFO on that one was great to watch.
- The only way to be safer from the cops is to enter a school with a gun
  
  It certainly is in Uvalde.

But buying things at the grocery store is commerce???
- Seems like burning gas that you bought at a gas station is commerce.
- Unless they’re driving their vehicle in the grocery store, I don’t think it counts, or something
  
  It's like guys hugging, as long as you say "~~no homo~~ no commerce" it doesn't count.

Here, buy my book of bureaucratic incantations.
Easiest scam targets ever
- Does it come with a page of stamps? I'm fresh out.
  
  BuyinG StAmpS is JusTliKe paYing taXes to the shaDdow gov acTuallY ran bYUSPS.
  What you do is you print NO POSTAGE NECESSARY IF MAILED IN THE UNITED STATES and glue that, not tape, it needs to be on the same corner as the moon position when facing north.
  Then somewhere on it, scribble in Sharpie the following Stat. st Law, Ch. 71, Sec. 23, circle that 3 times, not 2. Use red.
  I also got mailing supplies including pre-made stamp-like sovereign labels you can buy, Bill's been using them for years without issues, ask him.
  Still probably too coherent, mb.
  
  It better have some coupons in it too
- Ok, but you got me thinking it'd probably be possible to trick them into being pro privacy and green tech by using an "off the government grid" angle.
  
  If I graft this cancerous flesh mound onto my head, I'll be a little taller!
- Bureaunomicon? Bureaumancy?

Sovereign Citizens are the absolute most annoying people. You want to deport anyone? Start with them. Keep the migrants & refugees who want to be here. Send the SovCits to ~~Senegal~~ Somalia.
- Woah, what did Senegal do to deserve that?!?
  
  Send them to DC, so they get taxation without representation
  
  Every time I hear or read Senegal, I think of this gem from the last time that Jim McGuiness was coaching the Donegal GAA team, featuring the amazing Senegal Jimmy who can rattle off more Irish place names than most Irish people that I've met: https://youtu.be/gAjQrnImT_k?si=DQl_xIZv_P4Xz9pB
  
  Oh shit. I meant Somalia, not Senegal. Too early in the morning for me. Sorry.

I saw my first SovCit plate in the wild yesterday! They also had a tinted cover over it, I assume to hide it. Such a lack of confidence, tsk tsk.
- I don't get why they advertise themselves. You'll blend in a lot more if you use a normal plate and simply never renew the registration. You rarely get pulled over for this and ticket is so minor that it's easy to just ignore it and never show up to court. But more often than not the cop will just tell you to renew it ASAP and send you on your way. Be polite, apologize, don't argue/mention any sovern citizen bullshit, and most importantly: don't be brown-skinned, and usually they'll just let you go without even so much of a warning.
  
  The thing is, they WANT to show that they are "special".
  
  Won't the state just impound the car the second time sovcit gets pulled over? And eventually auction.
- Wow haha. I would love to see one but they're not really a thing here I don't think.
  
  I also don't seem to have them near me, but I might start carrying a hammer to break the tint of I see one. Sovereign citizens can get fucked and pay taxes.
  
  Be the change you want to see in the world!... Actually, wait-
  
  Yeah, debated trying to get a pic, but never had a chance given that we were both driving and I didn’t want to get too close to a truck that I was sure wouldn’t have insurance.

What a difference a day makes
- That's the most hilarious part.

I assume they're travelling on "private" roads and not trespassing on state property. Or they're an idiot.
- Definitely the second one.
- So this was percolating in my brain for awhile, these dense people have a hard time understanding the law but it's very easy to explain even if they magically are a sovereign citizen which means they don't have to do all the regular things humans do in a society.
  If you are driving on publicly funded roads that you didn't contribute to with taxes and did not licence your vehicle to drive on, you are just trespassing. Your options are: pay the fee/fine for trespassing, and then stay off the roads you don't own, or buy the "ticket" (pay your taxes and ensure your vehicle is licenced.).
  What's the response to that? Like I know they think a lot of weird and crazy stuff, but I get why they don't understand some of it, bevause it is complicated and based on law and generations of social contracts. This isn't that. This is "you can't trespass, no matter how sovereign you are."
  
  I was thinking that further and they would say “well foreign visitors can drive on our road and don’t pay taxes”, to which my thought is “yes, but we have bilateral agreements for certain countries which convey certain privileges, please show us your agreement or visa to be in this country”
  
  "something something right to travel" ignoring the fact that if they aren't under the law then they also aren't granted the rights provided by the law.

See that's what happens when you go to a country that does not have normalized relations with your sovereign citizen embassy to work out the sovereign citizen agreements and legislation to handle these sort of interactions.

I've been smuggling cocaine for a decade! No one will ever catch me!

What kind of help is he expecting anyways?
- Somebody will tell him what magic words to utter to make the cops go away.
  
  You'd think that they would carry a spell book with them at all times.
  
  Babba Yagga!

To spend your life mad about something that didnt happen.

Idk why but 'not for commerce use' sounds like broken English. Why it isn't 'not for commercial use'?
- If you don't use exactly the right words, the spell is broken. You have to cast it properly for it to work.
  
  They messed up by not signing it in red pen at a 45 degree angle, that's how they got em.
- As always, I welcome any corrections from those who think they can keep this shit straighter than I can, but the gist as I understand it is this:
  Many of them actually believe the entire legal regime of the united states is actually a function of private commercial law and that the "real" government is a sort of suppressed by a corporation that was created under its rules, so if they can successfully opt out of their involuntary commercial relationship with the "Corporation" that they are not bound by its rules, including taxes. Because they're so very smart, they understand you have to be careful, so making sure that you explain that you're not engaging in "Commerce" as the corporation's founding document states is important so they don't rope you back in. The US Constitution gives the federal government the right to govern "Interstate Commerce" so in the spirit of the law being a series of magical incantations, they want to keep consistent. The various US states are either in league with, or under the thumb of, the "corporation."
  
  the entire legal regime of the united states is actually a function of private commercial law
  I mean, they aren't entirely wrong...
  
  Oh you just unlocked a memory for me.
  Sovereign Citizens are mostly a US thing, but not entirely. When COVID hit, there was a video floating around of what was essentially an Estonian sovcit. Among other things she claimed that Estonia was actually a corporation registered in the US, etc. And no corporation can tell HER to wear a mask in the grocery store

Wait. That’s my license plate.

I’ve had this plate for over a year
Like it’s some sort of checkmate

That checks out for the type of person using ROFLMAO in 2022
- Don't call me out like this

I don’t think I can upvote these anymore. Just too sad.

Surprised they have a globe on the plate.

Help, help, I'm being repressed!

I don't know which one of these people I like less. The person with this stupid plate. The person who would rat them out on social media. Or the person who would call the fucking cops.
- Oh definitely the first one. These sovcit fucktards shouldn't be whoring on the society because someone on the internet told them they can.
- What about the fourth type of person that just chuckles silently when stupid people get what they deserve?
  
  Getting cops involved is a quick way to get someone killed. Not my kind of humor.
- It's probably all the same person.
- I would 100% call the cops on sovcit BS. Not 911, but definitely a non-emergency number. If there’s a chance they can get taken off the road, it’s worth the call.

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