I don't get hexbear, all I did was post one little political opinion and all of a sudden I have people calling me a fascist and replying with rude emojis. Very uncivil behavior, I'm used to forums where my legitimate and valuable political ideas can be discussed freely and with mutual respect!
Also please do not ask what I posted or look up the original thread or quote any of my previous comments, that is also uncivil.
lmao so we kill cancer cells, explode them into their component parts, pull their remains into the blood stream and filter them out at the kidneys to finally piss them out and flush them into the sewage system where cancer cells belong?
Ee wants to defend? That's kinda sad I like ee. Mostly because their takes are chaos. Absolutely chaos. Sometimes they're good. Sometimes they're bad. Sometimes you get that take outta left field about how the earth was flat but they used the corners in the COVID vaccine and that's why it's round now. It's a grab bag of fun and surprise every time.
According to comments in other posts from other instance Libs, seemingly we have to follow their posting. Which is to be il-informed and have absolute dog shit takes with a strong preference for bigotry against any non Anglosphere state.
You need to hear them out about how this particular billionaire predator is one of the good ones, that what society needs is more passion and innovation and that all of our problems will be solved if we just sit down, shut up, and wait for superheroes to save us.
After a recent thread dedicated to only shitting on hexbear, with constant hate and misinformation being thrown around, I decided to apply here.
I'm sick of explaining how people can ignore things they don't like on All by simply scrolling by, or blocking communities that routinely infuriate them.
The hate and misinformation is completely exhausting, in the short timespan that lemm.ee has existed, I have lost more faith in humanity in general and internet discourse in particular than in probably all of my previous life. Just reading through the constant garbage in the admin report queue is honestly too much sometimes.
I posted this question in the latest thread on lemm.ee, but I'll repost here as well: if anybody has any ideas on how to improve the situation, specifically in terms of the apparently deep hatred between some users based solely on what home instance they are browsing Lemmy from, then I am really open to all suggestions.
At this point, they're just pushing an agenda. All that "Hexbear operates in bad faith." is projection. If they really don't want to see our posts, they can always just create a lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works account. Our mods and admins are already banning the more rabid haters, so the only reason why some Hexbear hater would be malding about us is if they're purposefully searching for us to mald about, and that's entirely their problem.
I appreciate your efforts. I reported the thread in question when I initially saw it, and I'm glad it was eventually locked.
It's a lose-lose situation. People post threads about hexbear, then hexbear users show up to defend themselves, and then they get attacked for "brigading" or otherwise having a sudden presence in the thread. Rinse and repeat.
For me, the biggest annoyance is the constant "they are right wing trolls!" argument, or saying we don't support GSM/LGBTQ+ here because some users post sarcastic memes about the right. Like holy fuck it boils my blood.
I do want you to know, I didn't leave lemm.ee because of you or how you run the instance. I left because I can't stand the idiotic and mindless parroting of bullshit coming from other users. It's not your fault that a slice of users there are morons, especially with the size of the instance. Keep doing what you're doing and you will eventually find the path forward. Just don't lose sight of your own morality and ideals in the process.
if you're not already doing so, I recommend talking to our mod team because we went through similar crises when the site was younger. I think the realization we all came to eventually was that accounts are cheap - people can always remake them and change their behavior to be less corrosive to the site - so being free with the banhammer is ultimately less of a tax than just letting people stir up drama endlessly.
I doubt you'll like the answer, but you should ban those folks. And if people complain about them getting banned, ban them too.
I've come to see that, unlike many liberals, you actually do believe what you say and have an honest commitment to creating an open platform, which is why I say that I don't think you'll like the answer. But it's better in the long term. This site has undergone repeated purges. Quite prominent users, even mods, have been banned. While it's painful, it contributes to making a platform where the users you actually do want come.
Hate clicks and hate traffic have pretty much always been a thing. You can see it pretty much anywhere you go. Silicon Valley platforms deliberately exploited this through algorithms designed to maximize engagement through hate and other negative emotional turmoil. Like a never ending car crash you can't look away from, so people would always be trapped for extended periods of time looking at stuff that made them miserable.
Very profitable for those platforms.
Another thing is people like to vent and be upset about shit, given their unfulfilling lives. It's just in this case, that energy is being funneled into bad faith engagement and counterproductive practices (misinformation).
I really feel like it's more of a parroting behavior (in this specific case). Repeating things you hear without ever looking into it. Same reason people hate communism, socialists, etc. Propaganda is a fucking demon. And yes, posting about your own misery can be cathartic, so people do it. The problem is that the misery is internal and the projection is misplaced
I think the liberal philosophy on this is that you can hate someone, think they're morally wrong, think they're a genocide denier or whatever, and still think they deserve a platform and space in the discussion. The communist take would be to eradicate harmful behaviors and patterns, for the sake of good, but since they're liberals, they go with the liberal plan.
Glad you trolls are finally taking this seriously. First of all, you must stop being so violent and wishing death on the people of NATO! To prove your sincerity, from now on you have to refer to China as West Taiwan, Putin as Putler, and sign every post with "Slava Ukraini." Finally when election season comes around, every Hexbear user is required to post selfies of themselves with their "I voted" stickers. idc who you vote for, it's just important to show that you have faith in our institutions.
Are that many places actually defederating? There was talk on the server i came from of defederating but they're still there.
I feel it's silly to dismiss the idea that we're not already a test bed for psyops. If i had to hazard a guess, getting an instance defedded would be plan a to limit wrong-think in the fediverse. Besides tactics like forum sliding they can isolate a whole group by causing issues that other instances will want to defederate/inoculate themselves from? Too easy not to have that in your toolbox
Feels like one of the fediverses greatest strengths can be made a liability, at least for class consciousness, easily. That's why I'm planning on having a bunch of accounts across instances that i comment from on the regular so i don't have a home instance.
But i don't care, not really. Who cares if our words don't reach when truth is on our side? The truth can't be hidden from everyone forever, and will come to everyone's eyes another way.
I believe that the hundred or so trans people on hexbear should apologize to the cis people of lemee for their transphobic comments and pro-putin ideology!