Trump says he plans to enact 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico and add to existing tariffs on China on his first day in office

Trump vastly misunderstands how foreign dependent America's bullshit economy of e-slop, finance, and exploiting health issues is.

A trade war right after he kicks out the only people who actually make shit in America would be fucking hilarious if it wasn't so fucking dire.

No, he doesn't but his policy writers do know. It's called shock doctrine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
- This aligns perfectly with a bit I read that said that social movements and protest movements largely form and organize under progressive / non-repressive political situations where the people aren't so busy fighting for their basic survival that they can get more involved in politics.
Many small but important parts come from China nowadays. Parts we use directly, and those that end up in things people buy: screws and bolts, electronic parts, all kinds of plastic products. The US no longer has the machines or manpower to produce those parts on their own, and will still have to buy them in China.

Brace for inflation in the US like you have last seen in the 1920s.

Ford, GM, Chrysler instantly regretting their republican pac contributions as Toyota comes to eat their lunch even harder.

(Toyota assembly and majority sourcing for USDM is done entirely within the US while domestic companies have mostly outsourced to Mexico heavily)

How can I succinctly put it? Hmm..
It will affect Canada a lot more.

Even with 25% tariffs, it will still be cheaper to make in Mexico. And they will no longer have to pay the workers the same as the US, as they do under USMC.
My dad’s Tundra was built in Indiana My Camaro was built in Quebec
Those companies will just bribe him into writing in an exemption for them.
- Grift >>>>> Governance
Toyota and Honda(Ohio, baby)

Just got set up.

I hope they both roll strikes because I love em both.
I recently read that the Toyota Crown is assembled in Japan. Has there been any hints of tariffs there?
- Correct, that is JP built, along with a cpuple other small name models.... And trump has flat said everything imported is gonna see a minimum 10% tax. seeing as how the Crown made up for <1% of toyota's total sales volume for q3 2024, I doubt there's going to be a huge overall impact to their sales competitiveness vs the Big 3's entire lineup though
- I've never even heard of that model; I could be wrong but I'm having a hard time imagining it makes up a very sizeable chunk of their inventory or sales ledger

* does not apply to Chinese made MAGA hats

Literally. He also exempted his own daughter's clothing company last time.

I am prepared for prices in general to rise. I am also prepared to explain why to every dipshit Trumper I see in my vicinity.

If I owned a store, I'd itemize the Trump Tariff on every receipt, and a total for how much extra you paid because of him.
- I love this
  
  Edit: I also think taxes should be itemized on US paystubs, like is done in many civilized nations.
  
  One reason so many in the US hate taxes automatically is because it is a black hole into which we have no insights (on paystubs).
Trump did that stickers on all the electronic prices at best buy.

There will be lots of places to put the new Trump "I did that" stickers.

I kinda want to do this just to get some petty revenge on the fuckers that plastered gas pumps with Biden stickers (which they then had to remove when gas fell back down to normal prices eventually lol)
- I had to laugh when I saw those being scraped off post-haste, because it actually looked fantastic (For Biden that is! And the fucking morons that plastered "FUCK BIDEN" on t-shirts, flags and so on - even in front of children - didn't want to make Biden look good, dog forbid!), given the prices at the time.
Does someone make these? I'd like to buy them in bulk.

Cool cool cool, looks like it's trade war time. Surely this'll be to the benefit of anyone.

And right after deporting all the farmers, too! Trump speed runs America's first famine since the great depression.
- Who knew the Great in MAGA was the Great Depression all this time.

Stupid scandals should get ‘-a-Lago’ pinned to their arse.

Tariff-a-Lago is a go.

Roma's $1.25/lb + trump = $1.56/lb Cucumbers .85/ea + trump = $1.06/ea Avocado .99/ea + trump = $1.24/ea Asparagus 2.99/lb + trump = $3.73/lb

And that's at an affordable supermarket. Add 10-15% more for places like walmart, albertsons, kroger, etc.

Don't forget to add an extra 25% for all the companies using the tariffs as excuses to raise prices further to extract profit.

They did it with covid, they'll do it again now.
Are all cucumbers imported? Those can be farmed in the US, I believe.

I suggest starting a small garden for various vegetables and spices to save money. For those living in apartments, you can make some in your windows.

Mini leeks are probably the easiest. I actually got an overwhelming amount just from two pots and barely needed to do any kind of maintenance.
- No, all cucumbers are not imported. The US grows in season produce. During off season or low crop yields, we get food from Mexico & Canada. Southern states supply northern states but usually only east & west regions. So Florida supplies cucumbers to the east half, California to the west. Other states do grow them like Texas & Arizona. But we get a lot from Mexico, like a shit ton from Mexico, they make a lot of money from that supply line. That's just cucumbers. It's very similar with other produce. Canada supplies a lot of hot house tomatos of all types and mini sweet peppers. The interesting thing is, we export a lot of white corn to Mexico and there is no tariff on that export. Dumb donnie is literally punishing Americans while selling our exports for less than what we would pay. This is why we have NAFTA, for fairness and cooperation.
- My garden doesn’t produce during winter, due to all the snow and ice. The lack of sun doesn’t help either.
- In the winter, they are. English cukes you might find hothouse.
- No because being forced to grow food on my balcony it's totally why all of us enjoy living in an advanced economy.

Time to get a shit ton of stickers with smug Trump saying "I did this!".

Does anyone know where to buy these in bulk?
- China.

You know what? I believe him

I'm half pleased.

I was pissed when he won, mad that this madman and his regime was in control of America.

Now I don't think they have the capacity to control anything, and they have more of a shot at destabilizing modern society than ruling it.

They should keep building the tower of shit higher. It's a great building material.
That might have a different meaning if I thought you'd read the article.

It is weird - now that donvict has "won", his stupid base now thinks the economy is great. And donvict has not even slithered his way into power yet. I bet more than a few of his brainstems think that the price of eggs are now "great" again.

These same idiots are going to have to find someone not themselves, not conservatives and definitely not donvict when all his stupid policies come home to roost and start eating their faces...donflation will be a very, very real thing quite soon, it seems.

Are you going to add to them if someone arrests Netanyahu?

Emperor of stupid.

So I was thinking about the way he worded this, 25% tariff until the border crossings stop. I think he might be onto a 4D chess move here.

If he tanks the US economy so badly that it's financially detrimental to cross the border then the flow of people across the border will definitely come down. If he tanks the economy hard enough we may even see the flow reverse, at which point he can lift the tariffs and declare the job done.

He is already happy to make Americans ignorant, illiterate, and spiteful to outsiders; is he really going to baulk at making them dirt poor as well?

Many flee Mexico to escape the violence and gangs too, do t forget. Yes the economy is a big part of immigration, but safety is right up there
- If US citizens start to flee to Mexico and ask for asylum...
- I imagine that a society that votes in a wannabe fascist dictator will continue to be a bastion of safety for people of different racial backgrounds. I know if I was fleeing violence and gangs I look for somewhere with a nice welcoming camp just waiting for me.
  
  For clarification I am Australian so I have a bit of experience with a national bias of racism leading to poor outcomes for asylum seekers.
  
  I am taking a more positive view than I was about what's happening over there though. I think that the Trump presidency may well serve as an unambiguous demonstration of the end results of allowing democracy to become necrotic. I really hope Australians heed this lesson before our next election, although I won't be at all surprised if they don't.

He said he would impose the tariffs if he can't hammer out a deal on illegal immigration and drug smuggling. In other words he's leaving a way out

In his last presidency he blocked Canadian aluminium to force companies to buy from China

Don’t expect a way out
- Yoy are probably right. It looks more like this is a pretext to cause a recession in Canada which would doom the already flailing Trudeau presidency. Even if Canada adopted the kind of border policy the Trump wanted, that still wouldn't stop illegals or drugs.
There's no way out. USA is responsible for their own borders. Canada as a matter of fact has reciprocal agreements with USA law enforcement organizations.

This is going to really throw a fucking bomb on the WTO. Like complete collapse of international trade adjudication and just viscous multilateral trade wars. US will have neither imports or exports. The farmers are going to be pissed when their market collapses due to retaliatory tariffs.

Last time this happened, they were thrilled to take it to the chin since it meant ‘helping Trump’. I foresee them cheering this on too, even as they fall into poverty and have to sell the farm.
some will. others will delude themselves that it's everyone's fault except themselves and their choice to follow a malicious fool.

What a windbag! I wonder why I was so reluctant to have Canada enter into a free trade agreement with the US because eventually Darth Vader gets into power. With our current trade agreements, you can't unilaterally impose tariffs without implications. Bilateral trade between Canada and the US survived the first Rump presidency and it will outlive him.

Dumbass.