How do you feel about the level of censorship in your current instance ?
How do you feel about the level of censorship in your current instance ?
Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.
How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?
I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.
And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.
So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.
Sh.itjust.works has been brilliant, tbh.
High uptime, reasonable admins.
Very happy with it
I'm on world. Fuck the admins of world.
.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.
The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.
I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.
Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.
I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.
Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."
Both on lemm.ee and thelemmy.club its not very strict its just Common sense rules.
I'm happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don't care for "free speech" that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I've heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn't understand that deserves your suspicion.
I am the only (AFAIK) Italian instance and pretty happy. No censorship.
I don't know how people from Lemmy.world stand it, honestly.
I find, it's useful to piss off the nazis. For example, lemmy.ml has a word filter, which has hardly an impact on anything. But the free-speech absolutists who want to be allowed to say that we should murder ethnic groups of people, because they think that's an opinion, they see that as censorship, so they don't care to join here.
I'm not being forced to say this but I love our Communist dictatorship of the proletariat admins. They keep us safe behind our Great Communist Firewall and make sure I only see things that are good for me. I have fun with the slop and treats they give me, everyone here is very happy. There are no fights among our people and we all are always in agreement. No one ever asks for real freedom and my family is never threatened for doubting the actions of our appointed Supreme Leaders. We have temporary bans (which in our language we call "gulag") that are necessary and only reserved for those who wish to destroy our way of life, which we all equally benefit from and enjoy, so that we remain safe. We all have portraits of PPB in our home and daily recite the TrueAnon Rules. We have reading groups to make us better shitposters and if we do not do the reading we are all publicly reminded of our flaws and failures so that we may improve ourselves in the future. We all cry tears of joy that we no longer must touch grass or logout, we are all terminally online for our own good and for our community. We are very happy and everything is normal and we enjoy higher standards of freedoms than do users on other instances, our strict rules are only there to protect us. I'm not paid or forced to say this and my family is safe, please do not SEND FOR HELP. WE ARE NOT FORCED TO EAT BEANIS AND DRINK PISS TO SURVIVE, WE DO IT BECAUSE WE LOVE IT.
Not bad. The thing with "censorship" is that there are no real "free-speech" instances, all instances have opinions they deem intolerable and thus prune (whether selectively or overtly), and many selectively federate and defederate in a manner that makes one camp of thought more dominant, ie liberalism on Lemmy.world via defederation from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, etc.
Lemmy.ml is quicker to remove comments that break the rules than other instances, but is also more broadly federated and thus gets more points of view than, say, Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world on the other hand is more selective with what it removes, but intentionally defederates from instances with heavy concentrations of Marxists, a more subtle form of "censorship" that ultimately shapes the dominant narratives on its instance.
What this ultimately means is that the answer is to openly admit bias, which exists in everyone, and accept that as a natural consequence of the fediverse model. I wouldn't go to Lemmy.world if I wanted to know the opinion of Marxists just like I wouldn't go to Lemmygrad if I wanted to know the opinion of liberals on a subject, this recognition of bias is an intrinsic aspect of the federated model and needs to be openly recognized, otherwise sabre rattling about "censorship" between instances becomes a never-ending source of unconstructive drama.
I am very happy with feddit.org . I have not seen an issue with overmoderation, but I have also not seen a problem with spam or trolling. I believe hexbear is (rightfully so) defederated but other then that i did not notice any defederations.
The do not allow pornography which I support as you would essentially be hosting it yourself when it is federated which can become icky quickly. But I think this is a bit of a difference to other instances.
The instance also has a nice little community which is active enough to not be boring but small enough to feel like a community (might also be because of having a common language)
we aren't federated with NSFW instances and thats honestly okay because I use this account in public.
I've been thinking about switching over to lemmy.today as it's not currently defederated with anyone, so I can decide who to block and keep for myself. It's based in Oregon, and I like the idea of joining an instance close to me. I do worry about Lemmy.world being so overly dominate in the federated-lemmy-space.
But many of the communities that I participate in are lemmy.world, and it's nice that they send me an automated notice whenever a post/comment of mine is removed. I've already subscribed to many communities and would have to do that all over again. and I haven't thought of a creative new username.
I love that lemm.ee is federated with everyone, because that means I frequently encounter ideas that I - gasp - disagree with!
Just in case anyone needs to investigate what instances are federated/defederated from each other.
I've had some disagreements with admins of my instance and mods of some communities here and I'm yet to be banned. So, it's alright I suppose. Although I must say that I'm on the same general side of the political spectrum as the admins.
I've been on Lemmy for 4 months now. I've never had any problems with the rules. In fact, I haven't had any problems with any of the instances so far, even those that people consider "extreme" (like Hexbear and Lemmy.ml, people often complain about problems with their users, I personally haven't had any problems at all with them; on the contrary, I usually interact there in a productive and peaceful way, even when I disagree with them on some things).
I think it has more to do with people's behavior than with the strictness of certain instances/communities. I always try to be respectful. Respectfulness is the key.
Massive fan of feddit.uk and Lemm.ee, moderation has been great, feddit.uk the admin have shown a willingness and urgency in helping user. My personal experience; helping with resetting a backend issue effecting my account and looking into bot'ed down voting when I DM'd them.
Lemm.ee is just good with their federation philosophy which can be found on the sidebar.
honestly too light
I'm on my own instance, so i dont have anything to complain.
I'm happy with it. I've gotten a few temporary suspensions for saying things that I still believe I had a right to say - but that's the thing, they're temporary suspensions for a reason. You sit through them, seethe a little bit, and champ at the bit for the opportunity to say the same thing again but angrier.
The only instances Lemmygrad defederates with are porn and fascist instances, which I think is fine - I'm not anti-porn, but you just make a second account for that stuff.
The only things that I think the Lemmygrad admins have a hard time adjudicating are "Internet Leftist" boutique issues - stuff that is rarely taken seriously by actual people in the real world but weirdos on the Internet think are very important.
I haven't knowingly encountered any
Doesn't impact me so fine with it.
It's a little high for my tastes, notably in blocking piracy communities from other servers. I don't even care to participate in them; it's a matter of principle.
The automated censorship that keeps out CSAM and blatant trolling and scams? I love it.
The moderation that's done over the whole instance. That's understandable as it's a large attack surface for regulatory or state actor interference.
The community mods, that depends on the /c and honestly it's the same as it's ever been. It's wildly variable from person to person.
Removed by mod
I'm not a huge fan of the pro-China stuff in lieu of the pro-US stuff on other servers, but its mostly chill
I'm completely unaware of it and DGAF.
Most of us never say anything interesting enough to censor.
Most of the censoring is mob dogpiling.
But ya, I hate it.
And even if you don't get censored, look at who you're talking to. You're trying to reach the 1 smart person in 1000.
What we need is the 1990s internet. A collection of niche communities. And the 99% stays way over there in facebookland or whatever they had back then.
I have no problems with lemm.ee. Mastodon on the other hand...
I got booted from my first instance for going against prevailing opinion even though I was perfectly polite about it.
I don't feel I'm missing out on anything important. I don't want my instance to engage in any form of ideological censorship (in any direction at all unless required by law) and don't feel they are doing that. But I'm glad this thread exists because it tells me about other instances I could try if I ever became dissatisfied with mine.
How do you feel about the level of censorship in your current instance ?
It's pretty gay and removed
Delighted. Constructive or helpful disagreements are encouraged, and the mods ensure that I hardly ever encounter a bigot.
If there is any I have not noticed it.
My instance is great.
If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.
In that case check the modlog and if it's unreasonable why not try out another instance?
I’m satisfied, I haven’t seen or noticed any censorship.
It's not bad at all so far.
I run my instance so I am perfectly happy with the level of censorship.
Said instance is narrowly focused on free software and free culture issues, so unrelated politics would be off-topic. That said there is a fairly bog standard code of conduct prohibiting bigotry, nazism and the like.
Instance level censorship isn't much for the user to worry about (I run my own, so it's zero problem for me). Most censorship happens at the group level by group owners, and the admins on the instance the group is hosted.
I still don't have a problem with it though. You subscribe to a group on a certain instance, you cannot be too surprised if you get censored there.
It is precisely what I want.
Mostly I haven't had issues with it, I was banned from an egg_irl community on one instance, I forget which, for not espousing violence though.
It works. One day I even tried to piss a mod off and he told me I could leave, and he didn't care if I did.
So I said,... "based, I'm staying."
No one on sh.itjust.works has ever thrown a hissy fit over any of my arguments or stopped me from scorched-earthing a conservative, so they're a-ok by me!
We don't allow (almost) any kind of political discussion in the group I moderate. However, I've never had to take any mod actions.
My instance is great. I have no complaints and seen no censorship.
Lemmy.nz is amazing, the big instances are all much worse.
Supper happy with lemmy.word
You can actually have a conversation there without the whole thing being taken over by people who write like they are edgy 14 year old American tankies.
Okay with it.
Mostly they are CSAM instances being blocked, nazi shit, and tankies. I don't like seeing those anyways.
Mine's cool.
Yours otoh will ban you for political disagreements (read: supporting the authoritarian states they don't like OR not supporting the authoritarian states they do like) and censors the word "bitch," which is why I left the second new instances popped up. As an anti-any-authoritarian who considers that a bitchin' opinion it's not the place for me.