memes @lemmy.world

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Only if the wealth is redistributed to the masses though.
- Yeah exactly. Normal inheritance means their kids or spouse inherit, and the number of billionaires remains the same.
  
  Fun fact, if I were to inherit the wealth of a billionaire family member who was shot in public I’d get philanthropic real fast!
  
  This assumes a single person inherits everything. In reality, it'd be quickly distributed for every billy that dies.
  
  The Adjusters go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
- but if not, and they have two or more children ic tje amount gets split between them. Then you handlo those, and their children etc. It's financial homeopathy
- Narrator: it isn't
- By this algorithm, it would have to. Otherwise it'd just create a new billionaire who'd go to the back of the line
- In some cases, the wealth might simple be gone because the stock crashes of which the bulk of the wealth is built.

Starting a psyop on 4chan for making edgy school shooter wannabes start aiming at billionaires instead.
"You see anon, it's not that girls don't like you or that your class has 1 non-white person in cornbread America, it's that billionaires are leeches in society, and the cops they own would stop you. Don't fire at classmates, fire at the upper class."
- For good measure point out that people migrating into the country are often because the 1% are offering them otherwise high paying jobs at below minimum wage, but thanks to the exchange rate that's like a million dollars an hour back in their home country.
  Don't make it obvious that you're on the Left or they'll ignore you on principle. Make it sound like you're "one of them"
  
  Dey tuk er jobs
- I tried to teach socialism for terminally 4chan people, it's hard, and can be immediately undone by /pol/, some other nazi shit, etc.
  
  I did it once, in person, and all it took was food every day for a few months. We all shared our food at lunch instead of keeping it to ourselves, and we all went away more full than we had before. (the reason is that we all got a larger variety of flavors than before, but that's not the point. The point is communism) Never out had to talk about leftism or politics either, people just sort of came around via eating.
- These people believe they are just one crypto rug pull away from being part of the 1%
  This argument won't work on them.

My OCD wonders if they factored in having to assassinate the heirs of the CEOs who immediately become billionaires, recursively until every fortune has been divvied up so many ways nobody has a billion anymore. Cuz that would be necessary if you really want to "run out" of billionaires, and would also mean you advocate executing children for inheriting a lot of money. This does require thinking beyond the simple meme, but go ahead - you can do it!
- Unlike royalty the transfer of wealth isn't instant so if you work fast enough you can achieve a brief window when there are no billionaires.
  
  Wealthy people likely have a living trust and the next trustee picks up immediately without needing time-consuming procedures like probate.
  
  I get the impression a brief window isn't the goal, but in this thread rationalization might be.
- I wonder what that particular scenario's Gini coëfficient versus Cumulative Assassinations plot looks like. Sounds like the plot for a new season of Death Note.
- Compare the number of size S body bags used every time the cops gather to watch another “mentally troubled loner” to the average number of immediate family over 18 size of each billionaire, kids would have a trust fund guardian you’d rather capture than kill. All in all you’d probably expend a lot less ammo for more benefit going top down. Hypothetically of course.
  
  Any reason to prefer capturing trust fund guardians rather than killing them? I mean, the base plan doesn't call for checking how the original billionaire got their money or assessing them personally. We're operating strictly at meme level - controlling enormous wealth is evil. "Kill them! Kill them all!" Anybody who decides to wuss out and start adding constraints could be a shill or an apologist - at any rate it doesn't show full commitment to Sparkle Motion.

I love how Luigi has become a defacto symbol of the revolution. I can't imagine Nintendo being happy about it.
- Seriously. Their boardroom must be up in arms about it not being Mario.
- They will probably reference it in the next Mario movie.
- I mean. There's no such thing as bad advertising, supposedly. I doubt this would violate that statement.

Also, only about 28,000 hundred-million-plus-inaires on Earth.
For perspective, significantly more Palestinians have already been casually genocided by our bestie trade partner in that current conflict.
The blight upon our civilization of billions is not that large.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/number-of-people-with-100-million-has-doubled-since-2003.html
I'm not even suggesting they be adjusted, because I'm not a sociopath like they are. Use an economic guillotine, confiscate their exploitation gotten hoards for the commons(yes nationalize essential industries like utilities and Healthcare so they're owned by society), reshape the economy to stop rewarding speculative gambling with exploitation gotten chips over honest labor and vocations like teachers that keep civilization running, obviously institute a maximum wealth cap as other people live in this society going forward to prevent recurrance, bring their ego scores to zero for their murderous greed, let them keep $20 and give each of them a set of literal, cheap bootstraps, and let them get a real job.
Bar them from forming any kind of corporate entities or investing in anything other than a standard savings account for life, just as people convicted of computer crimes are sometimes barred from operating computers as they've proven they're a danger to others with them.
I'd be shocked if half of them didn't take themselves out of the equation suddenly being subject to the same reality as their current livestock.
- let them keep $20 and give each of them a set of literal, cheap bootstraps, and let them get a real job.
  Lettem keep hundreds of millions and all the non-lizards amongst them shouldn’t have realistic reasons to complain, plus society still benefits most hugely and you can still win capitalism (so they can’t argue completely any “necessary incentive” argument).
  A lot of readers here are unimaginably wealthy compared to destitute villagers around the world, but we still prefer to have some nice things and only donate of our wealth. I’m fine extending that philosophy to anyone.
  (In Burundi, the average earner won’t make $1000 this year.)

That would involve people actually doing something rather than waiting for someone else.
And even then you guys would fall into conspiracy theories because you can't believe someone actually did something.
- It's a prisoner's dilemma. Of fucking course we should revolt and save the world. Organizing that is not easy, especially when it makes you a target.
  
  And this is the heart of our predicament - the ones in control understand this. If they keep our misery at a low simmer they get to extract everything from us, slowly, we won't revolt. I worry that our only hope may be that they miscalculate and the pot boils over. I really don't want that, but I'm having a harder and harder time imagining real improvements anymore.
- Everyone is doing something. Working, going to school, living their lives. Even people who have no job, who walk the streets, are doing something: surviving.
  Most people’s survival instincts prevent them from taking drastic measures like this, even when things are really bad. Think of how many people who had every incentive to take a shot at Hitler but did not, despite all the horrors of the Nazi regime.

So many heirs tho...
What do we do if their heirs just inherit it?
Anakin Skywalker time? 🤔
- If we're waving magic wands around, change the tax laws to limit how much you can inherit.
  Changing the step up basis thing is actually pretty low hanging fruit.
  https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stepupinbasis.asp
  https://smartasset.com/investing/buy-borrow-die-how-the-rich-avoid-taxes
  
  I mean, if we could easily change laws, we wouldn't need to murder a bunch of rich people, just seize any assets that exceed a certain limit (a wealth cap essentially) and call it a day. No bloodshed. Frankly, I'm not a fan of violence if there is a peaceful path.
- They'd get generous quickly if we kept the guillotines lubricated

- And I want my scalps!
- So were these sausages I bought today.

One small problem:
Billionaires are not closed in together in a poorly secured room, thus you will need a lot more effort to just shoot down one of them.
- The 55th World Economic Forum will happen in a few weeks, but the security will probably be, like, almost twice as tight as the average school.
  /s
- Just arrange a dick measuring contest, and the largest dicks with the smallest wieners will come together. (pun not intended)

I haven't actually done the math, but by percentages I think they are probably fairly close.
- Its not hard to look up school shooting fatalities, but it would be depressing
  
  In total, you'd only need four numbers:
  The total number of school aged children
  The number of school aged children who died due to violent crime
  The total number of billionaires
  The total number of billionaires who died due to violent crime
  
  Welp that sucked.
  69 deaths in 2024 (323 school shootings in 1 year. More school shootings than school days. What are you doing there?)*
  And
  400+ billionaires the poorest is 3.3B
  So 2024 had 1 Billionare death, at this rate, we need 399 more years...
  *I forgot to add. Both this source and me are not american. Feel free to correct me with a more local source

We'd have have to use drugs or something first to get them to sign over their wealth. Probably film it, make sure no one thinks it was under duress. The whole process could take months to make sure it looks legit. CIA level brainwashing maybe? I donno, just spitballing. Then just make sure they can't backtrack on everything by finishing the job.
- Not necessary. After the first round of billionaires has been dispatched, their nepo babies will see the writing on the wall and sign it over quite willingly without any kind of coercion.
  
  This, make them afraid of having too much at once. It's what people recieving disability payments are already used to. (You actually get cut off and removed from healthcare providers if you're disabled and have 2000 in savings, and your spouse's income counts so you basically can't get married.
  
  I don't know enough to know if it's easier to cover up months of subtle and forceful coercion, or a billionaire's murder. I think that would count as 'duress' for the nepo chilluns. This is hard, I can understand why everyone's not doing it.

There are 1050 estimated billionaires in the US. In 2024 we've had 38 school shooting related deaths.
So a bit more than 2 months...
- 29 years, assuming we maintain 2024 school shooting levels. I propose that we just skip the schoolchildren shootings altogether, and just skip straight to French Revolution rates of aristocrat deaths. They unalived over 14,000 aristocrats over just a two year period.
  Given demographics in the US today, those are rookie numbers. I think we could really show history how it ought to be done and bump that up to some really fast math.
  The real unfortunate downside though was that 70% of the casualties during the reign of terror was worker/peasant class. Getting at those rich people meant they had to go through 700,000 human shields that the wealthy put in front of themselves. I figure our current wealthy elite wouldn't be reached until a far higher number of Americans perished.
  There's a lot of fucking bootlicker assholes out there still.
  
  They killed them. Unalived sounds stupid.
  
  Modern aristocrats are also much more mobile than their ancien regime counterparts.
  On a completely unrelated note, I wonder how far the FOSSCAD community has come with developing surface to air missiles.
- How many people got shot at school shootings, though?
  
  Looks like 116 recorded school shooting related injuries this year so far. Hard to say how many of those were kids getting shot though
- Who said anything about the US? Why not use world numbers?
  
  Please do share.
- He is not talking about school related deaths but about deaths of school children, so everyone who is still a school age.
  
  It specifically says shot. So sure let's expand to include all children shot at school or otherwise.

Unfortunately billionaires rarely try to educate themselves about the world at all, let alone gather together in a single cramped room to be educated. Still, it's a nice idea.

Another fun fact, billionaires and their lifestyles emmit more carbon pollution in 90 minutes than the average person in their lifetimes.

Good point, even though the numbers don't check out.
There were 69 children killed this year. 813 billionaires in the US. It would take almost 12 years.
Edit: These are only the school shootings, not the all deaths of minors
- Where did you get that number? John Hopkins is reporting 48,204 gun deaths for people aged 0-17 in 2022.
  
  “There were 2,526 gun deaths in 2022 among 1- to 17-year-olds, averaging to nearly 7 per day.”
  48,204 is total gun deaths.
  These are both horrific figures and in no way am I intending to diminish either.
  
  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-17/us-school-shootings-2024-in-numbers/104734714
  My mistake, I was only looking at the school shootings.
  
  So actually less than a week.

This is ignoring inheritance!

Make it so.

So, who here didn't know that there are several orders of magnitude more kids than there are billionaires?
lol

So what you are saying is we have plenty supply of school children and not enough billionaires? Let's see how we can get more billionaires then. Or do you want to reduce the number of school children? Because that is being worked on constantly...America, you have the freedom to get killed by someone with mental issues anytime.

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